[Osmf-talk] Fwd: Adding Makaney Code to OpenStreetMap for better Place Identification.

Gregory Marler sotm at livingwithdragons.com
Wed Dec 28 13:14:47 UTC 2011

I think this isn't a discussion for the foundation but would be better 
on OSM-talk.

My concerns are:
     * The website doesn't have an obvious about page with information 
like who is behind Makaney, who supports it, what's being done to 
promote it, how can we get in touch. This makes it just as good as the 
OSM short code, and I expect others have created similar codes that 
didn't take off.
     * OpenStreetMap is a map data provider. Makaney is a location look 
up service. It would be better too...
         ** Get Nominatim(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim) 
to support look up of makaney codes, or
         ** Add Makaney codes to OSM data with a tag like 
address:makaney but *only* where Makaney code is being actively used for 
directions to that house/location.

If the website wants to work with OpenStreetMap, then why not use OSM 
for it's own website. Unless they have a better relationship with Google.

I'm including the original contact so that they know what the initial 
reaction is, but I suggest they join the OSM-talk 
list(http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk) and send an e-mail 
there to be included ijn a discussion about Makaney Codes & OpenStreetMap.


On 28/12/11 12:59, Derick Rethans wrote:
> Hi,
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2011, Shaun McDonald wrote:
>> This seems to just be a variation on the shortcode url that OSM already
>> has. Usage really hasn't taken off.
> And this "Makaney Code" lacks the property that you can have arbitrary
> precision. Instead of having a lat/lon "division" interleaved, it
> insists on a precision.... I think the OSM short code is better still.
> cheers,
> Derick
>> On Sun, December 25, 2011 4:32 pm, Steve Coast wrote:
>>> forwarding to people who might help
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> From: Ziyad AL-Salloum<ziyad at makaney.net>
>>>> Subject: Fwd: Adding Makaney Code to OpenStreetMap for better Place
>>>> Identification.
>>>> Date: December 24, 2011 10:11:27 PM MST
>>>> To: steve at asklater.com
>>>> Merry Christmas.
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Ziyad AL-Salloum<ziyad at makaney.net>
>>>> Date: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Adding Makaney Code to OpenStreetMap for better Place
>>>> Identification.
>>>> To: chairman at osmfoundation.org
>>>> Steve,
>>>> I got your contacts from the "contacts" page in OpenStreetMap
>>>> Foundation website.
>>>> I want to tell you about Makaney Code, which is a simple idea that
>>>> would significantly enhance OpenStreetMaps (or any maps) users ability
>>>> to identify locations anywhere in the world.
>>>> Q: What is Makaney Code?
>>>> Makaney code is a human-friendly alphanumeric representation (like
>>>> postal or zip codes) of the geographic latitude and longitude
>>>> coordinates. Using Makaney code helps easily identify places on earth
>>>> with an easy to remember code. That's becomes very useful especially
>>>> in countries that do not implement a practical postal code system. In
>>>> such countries people tend to describe their locations using
>>>> directions, which is not always straightforward, waste valuable time,
>>>> and results in many inconveniences especially when an ambulance needs
>>>> to reach a certain location as soon as possible.
>>>> It is a non-profit project and doesn't require a database, just a
>>>> simple implementation of a straightforward algorithm. You can see it
>>>> in action at www.makaney.net
>>>> For more information, please refer to the "FAQ" section. And for all
>>>> the technical details refer to
>>>> http://www.makaney.net/mkc_standard.html
>>>> If OpenStreetMaps would like to use it, I'm available for any
>>>> assistance in that regard (voluntarily).
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ziyad
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