[Osmf-talk] Anonymous notes on osm.org

Hugo Holscher hugoholscher at gmail.com
Wed Nov 14 13:12:55 UTC 2012

I was more thinking  of a checklist kind of help. That suggestion is also 
somewhere in this thread.

List like:
0 Road blocked (temporarily)
0 No access for ....
0 No left/right turn
0 ....

As usual we also need other, then a suggestion that at least  15 characters 
in the description are needed.

Where I am unsure about is the way the Anonymous user get triggered to do 
what. MapDust seems to have a simple system from the iPhone, Do we envisage 
something similar, or do people have to go to a website, do we employ Apps 
like OSMAND or our own app for that (lot's of fun to get such an app 
approved by Apple :)).


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
From: Shaun McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:13 PM
To: Hugo Holscher
Cc: Rich ; Harry Wood ; osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Anonymous notes on osm.org

A blocking of bugs that have the help message just submitted would be 

e.g. on Mapdust the first bug I've looked at is:

Description: Please let the OSM mappers know more useful information about 
the bug. Without proper information, they will not be able to solve the 


On 14 Nov 2012, at 08:21, "Hugo Holscher" <hugoholscher at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks to me that there is substantial support for an open system. The good 
> thing is we can learn from that and if the majority is mistaken, there is 
> always a way back.
> As a recipient of MapDust errors, I would like to see a few people to 
> think how we can ensure that the number of real bugs increases. I saw the 
> number of  1-2 out of 10 bugs are real map bugs and in my experience that 
> is the optimistic number. The main reason I see is that routing errors and 
> temporarily closed roads (e.g. unloading trucks) are reported as bugs. A 
> low point was a GPS misreading of 200 m making the user feel to be on a 
> totally different road.
> I know too little of bug reporting systems, but if a working group is 
> started to improve on the MapDust principle, happy to contribute,
> Hugo
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Rich
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:54 AM
> To: Harry Wood
> Cc: osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] Anonymous notes on osm.org
> On 2012-11-13 05:04, Harry Wood wrote:
>> I feel quite strongly that we should allow anonymous notes. The exciting
>> thing about OpenStreetBugs was always the simplicity of the user
>> experience, particularly for non-registered fly-by contributors. Close
>> your eyes and think back to a time when you weren't obsessed with
>> OpenStreetMap. Imagine you're this guy:
>> https://forums.craigslist.org/?ID=221103972   Looks like I failed to
>> persuade him/her to add a bug, and that's without requiring sign in.
>> It's a user experience thing. For me this massively outweighs the other
>> considerations you've mentioned.
>> But a period of a few months of lockdown might be a good idea ("soft
>> launch")  Discussed here already:
>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/rails-dev/2012-October/001138.html
> i would strongly favour starting with such a "lockdown". mostly because
> of seeing too many useless reports on osb, and to see that community can
> deal with the amount of incoming reports.
> as noted by others, there's little benefit if we're swamped with
> reports, they pile up, become outdated etc. it also discourages
> reporters from bothering again.
>> Harry
> ...
> -- 
> Rich
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