[Osmf-talk] a receding opportunity

Big Fat Frog bigfatfrog67 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 1 22:49:58 UTC 2012



On 01/10/2012 23:30, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> A slight step back from this thread, and an alternative view.
> OSM has a respectable enough media presence. Not brilliant, not
> terrible. We know journalists who we can (and do) approach with our
> point of view. We feed stuff out via Twitter and elsewhere - our Apple
> cash-in tweet, which I'm disappointed Mikel didn't mention, got our
> highest ever number of retweets
> (http://twitter.com/openstreetmap/status/248759285801185281).
> There's a lot more we can do, and it would be great to have more
> volunteers to help us do so. I run the Twitter feed pretty much
> single-handed. I see 20 people weighing in on this thread but only five
> people doing the hard work at the Communications Working Group this
> evening. That is, I would gently suggest, the wrong way round.
> But - sometimes you also have to recognise that what you want to
> communicate doesn't fit into the narrative that the media is running
> with. Yes, it would be lovely to get OSM inserted into all those Apple
> vs Google stories, but the narrative is essentially "Apple fails" and
> not much more. Noam Bardin has said really outrageous media-baiting
> stuff and barely anyone's picked up on his quotes. What they have picked
> up is that there's an app called "Waze" in the app store, and it's a
> good alternative to Apple Maps; that's why Waze has had more of an
> uptick from the Apple episode than us.
> Why aren't all these disgruntled Apple Maps users flocking to contribute
> to OSM? Well, it might help if we had an app that actually allowed them
> to do so.
> Two lessons, and they're not about PR. One's about mailing lists and
> one's about OSMF.
> This endless wanking on mailing lists is a time-sink. It really is. I'll
> point the finger at myself first to save picking on anyone else - if I
> had a penny for every OSM list posting I've made, I'd be able to employ
> a full-time codemonkey to work on Potlatch, or something. It's
> disheartening, too. When we've been working to get the story out there,
> reading "we haven't been able to do anything" on some list really makes
> you think "fuck it, I'll give up".
> So this might be the biggest challenge for OSMF in the year to come. Fix
> the community, and OSMF itself. Get us back so we're building stuff, not
> just talking about it. Stop the cancer that is killing talk@
> (https://encyclopediadramatica.se/File:CANCER2.jpg).
> Here's a suggestion. Before writing a mailing list message about
> something, consider whether your five minutes would be better spent
> actually _doing_ something to fix the situation. The answer is pretty
> much always going to be yes. I shall now take my own advice and STFU. :)
> cheers
> Richard
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