[Osmf-talk] OSMF now also part of the OSM-forum

Hrvoje Bogner hbogner at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 23:58:09 UTC 2014


I hate mailing lists!
I like newsgroups more.
There is:
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap
Why can't we have it for osmf-talk?

We are all diferent and have our own preferences.

On November 20, 2014 8:03:08 AM CET, "Christoph (TheFive at OSM)" <thefive.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>i love the idea of generating more For  to OSMF topic to the mapper by
>being present in the forum.
>
>I have accepted that there are two suboptimal ways of communication in
>OSM
>
>a) The Mailing list 
>b) the Forum
>
>There are a lot of fans for the mailing list, discussing this HERE will
>result in an over average number of mailing list fans.
>
>The forum is NOT available offline, you can’t search in your mail
>client, but it offers Information in a readable way
>for users that where not on the mailing list, when the topic was
>discussed. So it it has a broader coverage.
>
>The Web View of the mailing list is just the „possibility“ to read
>things, but not really a usable front end.
>
>For all who do not know: 
>
>You can subscribe to this forum, being informed that something happened
>there.
>
>So if you are in an active forum community, post the existence of OSMF
>in forum.openstreetmap.org there and invite them
>to subscribe to this forum, to be informed.
>
>
>
>Christoph 
>
>
>
>Am 20.11.2014 um 00:03 schrieb Emilie Laffray
><emilie.laffray at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello Marc,
>> 
>> I have no doubt that the Dutch Users Forum is very lively but it is
>meant as a place where people go and ask questions I suspect. Since the
>audience of OSMF talk is way more limited, I fail to see how you can
>keep that lively in the first place. I mean when you look at the email
>around, you will see that only a subset of people are interacting in
>the first place (whether it is good or not is a different topic
>altogether and one could argue that voting is in itself a
>participation).
>> 
>> That said, I have no intention of checking on a daily basis a semi
>quiescent place when I can get emails when there are actually real
>things happening. It is also duplicating the channel of communication
>and it is very hard to follow a discussion considering the well known
>separation between people liking email and people preferring forums.
>> 
>> I understand that many find the volume of emails to be annoying but
>then again I find the volume on OSMF-talk to be very reasonable in the
>first place but then again I received thousands of email per day both
>from at the office and at home (lots of mailing list). 
>> 
>> However, thank you for your initiative and trying to get more
>involved with OSMF because it is something that is really needed in the
>first place. More communication is better and we may want to consider
>how we can engage more effectively with the foundation in the first
>place.
>> 
>> Emilie Laffray
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Marc Zoutendijk
><marczoutendijk at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Op 19 nov. 2014, om 14:02 heeft Jonathan Harley <jon at spiffymap.net>
>het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Well, no - the difference with forums is that when they go quiet for
>several months, everyone stops visiting them, so most people never
>notice a new discussion going on, and so it dies out again much more
>quickly.
>>> 
>>> Forums require a critical mass to keep going, mailing lists don't.
>> 
>> True, but once that mass is reached it keeps on rolling.
>> The Dutch Users forum
>(http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12) is a very lively
>group of people that are very concerned with the art of better map
>making. Doing the same thing in a mailing list is much harder. 
>> And it is much easier to follow discussions and reply to/engage in,
>than in the mailinglist with its endless repeats and quotes of previous
>statements.
>> 
>> Marc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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