[Osmf-talk] Reaching out and diversity (Was: Re: AGM and board elections)

[Derick Rethans]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Andy Allan wrote:

> On 29 September 2014 11:03, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> 
> > If anyone in this thread truly finds that the lack of certain 
> > presets in JOSM is a problem, add them instead of writing a blog 
> > article or Twitter message or conference talk about how everything 
> > is just so wrong.
> 
> I understand that you are well meaning here - OSM is built on 
> contributions, and you are trying to encourage contribution rather 
> than just commentary. Without contributions, we are nothing. But the 
> answer to these problems can't simply be "supply patches or be quiet", 
> since that only allows a small group to contribute. Instead we should 
> encourage a wide range of contributions, by explaining how and where 
> JOSM is developed, or describing how to create presets on the 
> preset-wiki system, or showing how to create an issue to ask for other 
> people to create presets, and so on. You or I can happily grab some 
> unfamiliar software, poke around with it and bash out a patch a few 
> hours later, but to demand a patch is not encouraging contribution, it 
> is actually just acting as a barrier.

So yeah, I can (often) also grab a piece of code and start hacking on 
it. And as per Frederik's suggestion I spent about half an hour trying 
to figure our how to do this for JOSM's presets. A bit of a barrier, but 
one that I can overcome.

I created two patches:

- #10568: [PATCH] Remove from default presets, amenities that objectify (mostly) women
- #10569: [PATCH] Add childcare preset

I have to admit, the first one was probably a bit of a provocation, the 
second one adding presets from a tagging proposal.

I somehow knew what the reply to the first one would be - just as I
would expect from a male privilege point of view.

It was simply:

	"This is no political correctness club."

*Now* we're talking about barriers. 

This is my first interaction with the JOSM developers. Instead of 
engaging with me why I thought this was a good patch, they throw this 
into my face. How likely do you think people with less of a thick skin 
would react? Right, they just won't bother anymore. I am not going to 
give up though.

cheers,
Derick