[Osmf-talk] The 'Paying People' question

Kate Chapman kate at maploser.com
Mon Nov 30 21:34:19 UTC 2015

Hi All,

Maybe I should have mentioned in the question that we do already pay
people. I should have also specified, "pay people in any capacity". I
didn't mean necessarily having staff. I was more interested personally in
people's views of if we should pay anyone and if so to what extent.

It is often forgotten or not well known that the OSMF currently does pay
people for certain expertise. Are there other things that cannot be done by
volunteers for whatever reason that the Foundation could benefit from
having additional resources?



On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:

> Am 29.11.2015 um 12:03 schrieb Robert Banick:
> > I’ve personally always thought that the paid staff vs. not- paid staff
> > dichotomy was a false one. What about temporary consultants hired to
> > accomplish specific tasks or build specific tools? What about
> > part-time staf who hold down unglamorous functions so we the community
> > can focus on the bigger picture? I’m more interested in those two
> > options coming to pass than I am full-time paid staff, thogh I don’t
> > recoil in horror from the latter. I just think that OSM needs a lot of
> > love on specific tools and more resources for community-building.
> >
> It probably needs to be repeated: the OSMF already outsources and pays
> for work done on its behalf, for example: accounting, 3 different groups
> of legal counsels (IP NA and Europe, corporate UK, the later pro bono)
> and in the past has paid for software development. There is no reason
> the board couldn't, and I suspect nobody would oppose, engage a
> secretarial service if deemed necessary (secretarial work seeming to be
> the current beef the board has).
> > I understand paying people in general is a change for OSM but as
> > Frederik mentions, it doesn’t have to be an extreme.
> >
> The questions raised centre more around (when this was raised by
> Frederik a couple of months back):
> - giving up the pay as you go model without clear reasoning
> - employing somebody without a clear job description (aka lets employ
> somebody and then find something for them to do)
> - doing the above and as a consequence entering in to larger and
> potentially longer financial commitment without a jota of financial
> planning (at least nothing that has been presented in any form to the
> membership)
> Simon
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