[Osmf-talk] OSM and Diversity

Kathleen Danielson kathleen.danielson at gmail.com
Tue Aug 1 13:31:28 UTC 2017

Hi Everyone,

Just dropping in, as another woman who was on the OSMF Board, but did not
manage to finish her term. (Another fun cut was hearing "Good Morning,
Gentlemen!" being called out as someone entered a face to face board
meeting at which Kate and I were present, definitely not being gentlemen.)

I've mostly checked out of OSM these days, because it was exhausting (I
wonder why...).

If you're wringing your hands about what we can do about the diversity
problem (as I saw in a different thread), you haven't been paying
attention. We've been talking about this for years. Here's a talk I gave in
2015 literally called "Improving Diversity in OSM" [1]. Here's a list of
other OSM-specific resources that have been collected on the wiki [2].

I hope you'll take to heart the work that so many of us already poured into
this topic. I hope you'll also think long and hard about why quite a few of
us who amassed that body of work are no longer active within the community.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=WIzTEaMEc8k
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Robert Banick <rbanick at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kate,
> I don’t have any brilliant contributions to add, beyond thanking you for
> this well spoken message. I agree completely with what you said and will
> try to remember the enjoinder of “just don’t”. I’m not a big mailing lister
> but I am certainly guilty of narrowing in on small things instead of
> addressing the bigger picture.
> I think it’s a great idea to include these principles in the Core Values
> list. I also think that really, 99% of people on this mailing list
> implicitly recognize those Core Values, if not always the best behaviors to
> reach them. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t recognize them, I just think it’s
> worth noting we are a community of good intentions, just not always good
> methods.
> Finally, 10 chicken statues?? 1 wasn’t enough?? This seems excessive.
> Best,
> Robert
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:45 AM <ste at fraccaro.org> wrote:
>> Hi Kate,
>>      normally I don't write any message to the mailing list because I
>> can't read all messages and because my english is not so good. However your
>> email impressed me.
>> I agree with you. OSM should create a detailed map of the world. One size
>> don't fit all.
>> I hope to see also other womens in the OSMF board in the future    ;-)
>> Cheers
>> Stefano
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