[Osmf-talk] Proposal - OSMF Should **NOT** Adopt a Code of Conduct

Ian Dees ian.dees at gmail.com
Sun Dec 3 21:10:24 UTC 2017

The fact that you haven't seen an issue doesn't mean an issue hasn't
happened. It's likely that the people who have felt harassed or
uncomfortable have backed away and not participated in OSM rather than
worrying about reporting or pointing out a problem.

I encourage you to read the FAQ here, which directly addresses this
question and others that have come up:


On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>

> That's a good question, Ivo, as I haven't seen any since becoming a mapper
> in May 2009. And that makes me even more puzzled of why this interest on
> having something like that.
> Cheers,
> Rafael.
> On 03/12/17 21:41, Ivo Stankov wrote:
>> I agree completely.
>>  From the proponents of a CoC, could you please give specific examples of
>> previous behavior in the OSMF community which you think makes the
>> creation of a CoC a necessity/must in order to suppress it in the future.
>> Best, Ivo
>> On 12/03/2017 07:29 PM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote:
>>> Hi all:
>>> I am deeply against the adoption of any code of conduct for our (IMHO)
>>> very civilised OSM community. Even the name sounds scary for me, and
>>> have never read any CoC; I have more interesting things to do in life,
>>> like mapping for example.
>>> Any code of conduct will make people more or less autocensure. I can't
>>> see any interest of having that thing, unless for control.
>>> I also think it's a simple non-sense on what respects to the diversity
>>> of cultures we have in a worldwide community: what is unacceptable for
>>> some, it's fairly fine for others.
>>> I would see a CoC committee a kind of new Inquisition. I wouldn't trust
>>> it at all, whoever the members of that committee (even if they were my
>>> own family!). And whatever their resolutions, they would be simply
>>> subjective. Please, don't compare that with meassures the DWG takes,
>>> that are way more objective.
>>> We are (I hope) not interested in companies to be happy just because we
>>> have a CoC or whatever they like we have. Because we are a community of
>>> mappers who love mapping, not business people who want to attract
>>> companies or institutions. We don't need to grow to be big. We are
>>> great, because we have a healthy, free and independent environment to
>>> practice our favorite activity: free mapping. We are bigger than any
>>> (awful) ngo, institution or company full of restrictions and so called
>>> Codes of Conduct.
>>> Some people feel frightened to participate in mailing lists? Well, I
>>> think it's very exaggerated and makes me smile in general. But even if
>>> that was an issue, the price we would have to pay for "solving" that
>>> would be much bigger than the imperfections of a community that is
>>> already very healthy in my opinion.
>>> I only hope that those of us who oppose any such move are a majority. I
>>> don't think I would loose my interest in mapping, but I would certainly
>>> loose interest in participating in the many OSM mailing lists (among
>>> other media) that populates our lovely community.
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