[Osmf-talk] DWG survey on organized editing

Allan Mustard allan at mustard.net
Wed Oct 18 15:25:53 UTC 2017


I use a VPN so my North American IP address masks my location in Asia. There will be statistical errors if we rely on IP addresses. 

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On 18.10.2017 11:06, Heather Leson wrote:
>> I recommend that we have a subsequent and more inclusive plan for any
>> policy discussion. It is very disturbing to see such a low contribution
>> from Asia and Africa
> 
> I think the survey participation largely matches (a) the distribution of
> OSMF membership and (b) the distribution of OSM mappers. This is well
> known (and not the only diversity issue we have). "Disturbing" is maybe
> a little bit strong - it's simply a consequence of where and how the
> project was started and how things radiate from there. This takes time.
> A couple years ago you would have seen the same imbalance between Europe
> and North America that you see between Europe and Asia today.
> 
> (The actual distribution of *data* in OSM is not as skewed, because data
> in Asia and Africa is often created by mappers from Europe and North
> America. Which is a whole different problem again!)
> 
> We all agree that we should take steps to remove hurdles and make
> participation easier for people who want to participate.
> 
> This is however something that affects the whole project and the
> organisation, and not something that can be remedied in the course of
> creating one particular policy or making one particular decision.
> 
> I have high hopes for the local chapters; once we have local chapters in
> more than just a few countries, we could have policy input from local
> chapters instead of individuals. This will keep the process slim (we can
> expect to find one person in each local chapter with whom matters can be
> discussed in English instead of building an UN-like apparatus) and can
> at the same time afford a little more weight to under-represented
> groups. Which of course also carries some risks (think FIFA where
> chapters are "bought" by wealthy interests) but we can deal with that
> when we come to it.
> 
> Bye
> Frederik
> 
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