[Osmf-talk] Use ESRI vector OSM for osm.org?

Oleksiy Muzalyev oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch
Sun Jul 14 08:19:16 UTC 2019


The real advantage and promise of the vector tiles approach is the 
possibility to select a language of the map. I did not find this feature 
on the ESRI map.

Langue selection would end the "language editing wars", it would also 
make the map practicable for tourists. For example, one wants the map of 
Beijing in, say, Spanish, - here you are, select the Spanish language in 
the drop-down list. But for this to work the tag: name:es=Pekín should 
be present in the OSM database.

The geographical names differ even in linguistically close languages. 
And it should be reflected in the OSM database for the language 
selection to work well. I mean there should be a big preparation process 
on the database editing (mapping) side.

One more consideration, - the client side rendering sounds like there is 
one client. But in fact it means rendering in a browser, or even more 
correctly in a rendering engine of a browser [1]. Rendering engines, or 
for simplification JavaScript engines, are developed by web browser 
vendors, and they differ here and there not only between vendors, but 
between newer and older versions, and between operating systems too. 
There are quite a few browsers: Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari, Internet 
Explorer, and so on.

It means that our vector layer should work not in one or two, but in all 
of them, on all operating systems. What is not a trivial task at all, 
since client side rendering depends even more on multiple ever-changing 
browsers, as opposite to the current server side rendering, where all 
the heavy lifting is done on a single server, which is under control of 
the OSM community.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript_engine

Best regards,
Oleksiy (Alex-7 @ OSM)


On 7/14/19 00:50, Clifford Snow wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:34 PM Milo van der Linden 
> <milo at dogodigi.net <mailto:milo at dogodigi.net>> wrote:
>
>     Is there an invasion of esri fans?
>
>
> I don't think its so much being an ESRI fan but more the hope that we 
> migrate to vector tiles for osm.org <http://osm.org>. ESRI is just 
> showing us that it can be done. Vector tiles can bring a lot of power 
> and customization to the osm.org <http://osm.org> site. However, 
> getting to vector tiles will take a concentrated effort from a group 
> of volunteers.
>
> (While I have a strong desire that osm.org <http://osm.org> be running 
> vector tiles, I don't have the skills.)
>
> What we can do is
>
> 1. call for volunteers that are willing to do the hard work
> 2. give guidance to the volunteers
> 3. provide systems resources to enable them to develop and test
>
> Clifford
>
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