[Osmf-talk] Statement updated and next steps

[Heather Leson]

Thank you again for the feedback.

Tim  - the statement says open for signatures until Wednesday, Dec. 16th
1700 CET. The team talked about putting it on the wiki. I am not sure the
signatures should be transferred. In my opinion, perhaps not but I will
discuss with them.

Mateusz, thank you. I also updated the statement pasted into my osm diary
to reflect the current version.

Have a good weekend.

Heather
Heather Leson
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On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:36 PM Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk <
osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> From what I see, content from that document is presented also at
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Heather%20Leson/diary/395056
>
> I see that list of signatories is missing, not sure what else is not
> different
> but content that I remmeber is matching.
>
> Dec 12, 2020, 15:18 by tim at elrick.de:
>
> Hi Heather,
>
> I had retracted from participating on this list like Graeme (nicely put
> email, Graeme!) and I am sympathetic with many of the signatories’ ideas, I
> assume. However, I still haven’t read the actual call because it still is
> on Google instead of an open platform. If this call is for inclusiveness
> and opportunities for participation then we shouldn’t break with one of our
> core principles that made OSM what it is today. I do understand that not
> all communication has to happen on open platforms as OSM is now a very
> diverse world (and I do understand Celine‘s argument that the chosen
> platform was the most available to the group at the time of drafting), but
> now you made revisions and it seems to be a core document for an important
> discussion. Would you mind putting it somewhere accessible, please?
>
> Thank you,
> Tim
> [AGeographer]
>
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 10:39, Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Dear colleagues, this has been an intense week. Hope you voted.
>
> I am writing today to advise that we heard your feedback about naming
> Frederik in our intervention and have updated the Call for Action
> Statement. To be honest, this evolved quickly. We were focused on the
> text and needs for the community.
>
> On a personal note, it was never my intention to humiliate anyone as one
> of the writers. It really was there because we are often asked to provide
> examples. Frederik and I are very different, but I can tell you that I
> truly appreciate his passion and contribution to OSM, even if we have
> different views and versions. I have also been on the receiving end of the
> onslaught of notes. I really have more empathy and do want to focus on the
> topics at hand.
>
> The text -
>
> "*We write this statement as OSM community groups, contributors and
> members, in response to systemic aggressive behaviour that demotivates and
> excludes participation by women and other minoritized groups in OSM, as
> well as some men. This behaviour degrades the spirit of open community
> culture, and damages the OpenStreetMap reputation. The catalyst for
> statement was the offensive message sent to the OSM-talk list [footnote
> iwth piper link]**, but the systemic behaviours described span many years
> and many people." and that way we can focus on the main goal of this
> statement.* " [1]
>
> For those of you not on the diversity-talk mailing list, we are having a
> casual meet and greet just to be human and talk about a way forward. It
> will be at 1500 CET right before the AGM.  The link is on that list.
>
> thank you again for your passion for osm
>
> Heather
>
> [1] document
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?ts=5fd11436#>
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherleson at gmail.com
> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
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