[Osmf-talk] microgrants - second draft policy document

Joost Schouppe joost at osmfoundation.org
Tue Jan 14 16:37:54 UTC 2020


Note that the first draft was mostly hacked together based on several
documents created over the years of discussion about this. So the edit
history from back then would be an entirely different matter.

Op di 14 jan. 2020 17:35 schreef Joost Schouppe <joost at osmfoundation.org>:

> Hackmd because it looks nice and is just generally awesome for editing
> text together
> Etherpad because it shows off who typed what easily, so nicest to use
> during a meeting
> LibreOffice because we share an odt file
> Word because I was on my work computer and that's what's installed there
>
> So no fundamental choices behind all this, just "whatever works".
>
> I think hackmd could be the tool to use for this though. It is both
> extremely easy to use, allows for some layout with markdown, and it shows
> edit history. I believe you can create published versions and share a read
> only link. I have not looked into exportability of the edit data though.
>
> Whether or not the detailed edit data - should- be shared is another
> matter. I think it could be useful, as it would help for our members to
> have a closer understanding of how the board works and who stands where.
> But it can also be misleading: for example someone might make an edit after
> wider discussion, a compromise that does not reflect their personal point
> of view at all. Apart from that, I do think there are situations where
> there is a trade-off between transparency and efficiency. If I have to
> choose, I'd rather have a board that is working for osm than one that is
> paralyzed by fear of attack. When it's your work being analyzed, scrutiny
> feels a lot like constant attacks. I know that's not what's happening, but
> it can be exhausting. And burned out board members aren't good for the
> OSMF. Now I know all this can be an easy excuse to just do everything
> behind closed doors. I hope you don't r read that into this. Personally, I
> hope that in this new board, that seems to have less trust issues, we can
> adopt a more open working culture.
>
> Joost
>
>
>
> Op di 14 jan. 2020 11:08 schreef Christoph Hormann <chris_hormann at gmx.de>:
>
>> On Tuesday 14 January 2020, Allan Mustard wrote:
>> > I don't know of a software product that can parse versions across
>> > multiple platforms and software products.  If anybody does, please
>> > let us know.  Especially if it is freeware.
>>
>> As Roland already mentioned git and other version control systems are
>> well suitable for this, especially if you work based on text based
>> formats (Markdown, Mediawiki, LaTex etc.)
>>
>> There are editors with direct RCS integration but most people prefer to
>> do this separately - checking out the current state of the file, making
>> edits and then committing the changes.  If you for some reason need to
>> do format conversion because your chosen exchange format is not
>> supported by your editor that would need to be done as well of course.
>> But unless you are extremely partisan about this ("i only do text
>> editing in Word") just pick a suitable editor.  Always keep in mind
>> that we are not talking about fancy DTP work here, this is about simple
>> text documents - headings, paragraphs, lists, occasionally a small
>> table.  Using OpenOffice is already complete overkill for that.  I
>> would do things like that in a plain text editor without WYSIWYG
>> anyway.
>>
>> The most strait away method if you are not familiar with version control
>> systems is of course just editing the document on the wiki - especially
>> if it is, like here, a document that will ultimately reside on the wiki
>> anyway.  But i understand this comes with disadvantages (very limited
>> editing interface, no comfortable offline editing ability).  But it has
>> the advantage that most people in the OSM community are familiar with
>> it.
>>
>> --
>> Christoph Hormann
>> http://www.imagico.de/
>>
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