[Osmf-talk] App damaging OSM data

Juan Jose Iglesias jjiglesiasg at gmail.com
Mon Sep 20 22:10:15 UTC 2021

All relations are important and it’s true that using ID could damage not on porpoise such relations. But just to imply that ID users should or could be Banned is UNACEPTABLE by any means.


I do not know exactly how many ID users are in the whole OSM editors universe. But I am one of them, and after more of 6.4 million of map changes using ID, just to read that seems to me Offensive.


By the way there are hundreds if not thousands or millions of relations UNNECESSARY or bad constructed and nobody has requested them to be deleted.


Sorry but stop the crocodile tears and propose real solutions.







From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:56 PM
To: John Whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
Cc: OSMF Talk <osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Osmf-talk] App damaging OSM data




Am Mo., 20. Sept. 2021 um 22:18 Uhr schrieb John Whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> >:

I would suggest that relations are complex and it might be better by starting to explain just what they are and why they are important to mappers.

Once the understanding is there then it becomes easier to apply pressure to avoid damaging them.

For one I have no idea what they are or what value they are and I've been mapping for a good few years.

Cheerio John



relations are an object type like nodes and ways, but like ways are made of nodes, relations are made of nodes, ways and other relations, and these members can (but do not need to) have “roles”.


Relations are a way to model things by using other data, rather than drawing new things, you reuse existing objects and bring them into relation.


Established applications are for multipolygons, turn restrictions, routes like bus and hiking routes, and more.


The kind of members, and their roles, depend on the type of relation.






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