[Osmf-talk] Updated membership prerequisites plan

Heather Leson heatherleson at gmail.com
Fri Jun 10 17:35:23 UTC 2022


Thanks. Super helpful

Heather

On Fri., Jun. 10, 2022, 16:07 Mikel Maron, <mikel.maron at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi. Wanted to clear up a point. There are three things being talked about.
>
> 1) OSMF Membership. Proposal is to require 15 days. Here's the reason why
> I put this idea forward
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2022-February/008305.html
> 2) Active Contributor Membership. This allows people to join OSMF without
> the barrier of the fee. Requirement is 42 days in past year OR a short
> statement on non-mapping contributions. Those are then reviewed and
> approved by the Board.
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Membership/Active_contributor_membership
> 3) Active Contributor for license change vote. Requirement is editing in
> any of 3 different months over past year.
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms
>
> -Mikel
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
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> On Friday, June 10, 2022, 05:58:54 AM EDT, Heather Leson <
> heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Guillaume,
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> There are no tools/processes to measure/track contributions to OSM besides
> data on the map. Since you decided to cite my contributions in the example
> response, it might be helpful to have more information. Last year I joined
> the LCCWG subcommittee on Etiquette & Moderation and spent much more than
> 15 days contributing with an amazing team of volunteers. This was tracked
> on wiki pages and in events such as SOTM. Your response made me ask whether
> others' contributions are in the same position.  This process is flawed if
> this is the decision point:
>
> "You haven’t mapped since May 2019, so you wouldn’t be counted as an
> active contributor for a decision on a licence change or for a membership
> fee waiver."
>
> I want to thank fellow LCCWG Subcommittee members for all their
> contributions. It seems to me that the board announcement missed the credit
> of the subcommittee for engagement and efforts. Which brings the question -
> if we are only counting 'quantitative data' rather than consider the
> quality/quantity of other contributions why?
>
> While I suspect you are making a data-driven point, you likely did not
> intend to minimize any personal contributions in your examples.  I've made
> multiple diary entries about how we define contributions. The board
> decisions should reflect the full types of contributions.
>
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> Thank you
>
> Heather
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> Heather Leson
> heatherleson at gmail.com
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> On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:10 PM Guillaume Rischard <
> guillaume.rischard at osmfoundation.org> wrote:
> > Hi Heather,
> >
> > It would be mapping any amount on at least 15 different calendar days,
> in UTC because that’s where the OSM servers run.
> >
> > HDYC has a convenient counter that shows total mapping days, and also
> whether a person can be counted as an active contributor for different
> purposes. For example https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Heather%20Leson : you’ve
> mapped on 18 days in your life, so you would be qualified to join if you
> were a new member. You haven’t mapped since May 2019, so you wouldn’t be
> counted as an active contributor for a decision on a licence change or for
> a membership fee waiver.
> >
> > The reasoning is that 15 days is a low enough bar for anyone to jump
> over, and that if you’re a member you should have at least some idea about
> mapping. Some very active people in the OSM community hardly ever map, but
> all of them have mapped at least a bit.
> >
> > Guillaume
> >
> >> On 7 Jun 2022, at 10:57, Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Guillaume and colleagues.
> >>
> >> How do you measure other contributions to the OSMF and OSM network?
> Meaning - if someone does not map often, but contributes to the community
> (Legal, software, events, community engagement, translation, storytelling,
> and advocacy) how is this taken into account?
> >>
> >> Also, is it 15 full days of mapping or mapping 15 times. Meaning -
> hours that amount to 15 full days or 15 days adding things to the map?
> >>
> >> thank you
> >>
> >> Heather
> >>
> >> Heather Leson
> >> heatherleson at gmail.com
> >> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> >> Linked In
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:23 AM Guillaume Rischard <
> guillaume.rischard at osmfoundation.org> wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you all for your feedback to the consultation on membership
> prerequisites. Based on your responses and discussion at the board’s
> virtual face-to-face meeting, we have decided not to call an extraordinary
> general meeting to change membership rules. We intend instead to implement
> measures on new memberships through a board decision at the next OSMF board
> meeting (if we’re happy with your feedback here). We will limit new
> memberships to people who have at least registered three months ago and
> mapped 15 days. Later, we will use a survey to gather additional feedback
> and confirm the membership’s support for the change. We also evolved our
> thinking on the criteria. More on both points below.
> >>>
> >>> Point 1: The implementation.
> >>>
> >>> The plan so far was to implement membership prerequisites through a
> general meeting. Because the next AGM in December is still a long time off,
> moving forward with this now would require an additional meeting to be
> scheduled specifically for this topic. Calling a meeting of all foundation
> members, and doing the same for any future tweaks to the requirements,
> seems cumbersome.
> >>>
> >>> To avoid this, we want to install requirements on new memberships
> through a simple board decision (which we’re allowed to do by the Articles
> of Association). We’re not casting anything in stone, and a future board
> can adjust the requirements.
> >>>
> >>> Later this year, we will formally survey of the membership. Compared
> to a general meeting, a survey is more flexible in the types of questions
> we can ask. We will not be limited to simple yes-no votes, but
> can specifically ask about details such as the number of days, the types of
> contributions, and other aspects of the proposed requirements. Based on
> your response to the survey, we would decide whether further, less or
> different measures are necessary.
> >>>
> >>> Point 2: The requirements.
> >>>
> >>> We’re hearing a lot of discussion about how to validate
> non-mapping contributions. We also hear workload concerns from our working
> group volunteers. That’s why we’re now considering to count only mapping
> days, but set the barrier so it isn’t too high for people who mostly
> contribute in non-mapping ways.
> >>>
> >>> Pending membership feedback, the Board therefore intends to accept new
> normal and associate memberships applications only from persons who have
> mapped over 15 days, and have registered at least three months ago. The
> Board will ask the Membership Working Group to implement these restrictions.
> >>>
> >>> Please let us know your thoughts on our plan.
> >>>
> >>> Guillaume
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Guillaume Rischard
> >>> Director and chairman of the board
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