[Osmf-talk] Consultation on fundraising strategy
Paul Norman
penorman at mac.com
Sat Mar 18 02:05:00 UTC 2023
On 2023-03-17 10:15 a.m., john whelan wrote:
> Perhaps it is time to look at costs. Ten years ago the cost of
> electricity for a Windows server running 24 / 7 / 365 a year for
> three years was greater than the cost of the hardware and I don't
> believe that has changed much. Some other vendors say their systems
> are better than this but when you look at the cost per MIP their cost
> is higher. The machines themselves are more expensive.
>
> ARM based servers with their RISC architecture might do a little better.
Our AWS sponsored sponsored server is running on an ARM server. For
various supply reasons, ARM has not been the best option when we've made
purchases.
> So probably our greatest cost is electricity either directly or
> including cooling. There is a reason why many data farms are located
> where they are and the cost of electricity is one of the reasons.
The OWG is very aware of our power usage and takes steps to minimize it.
> Servers are difficult to size, in general you buy one with more
> capacity than you need.
Servers aren't difficult to size if you have a good prediction of future
hardware requirements, and our predictions have historically been good.
Growth has historically been very stable.
> Would running OSM in the cloud be cheaper? I'd probably go with
> Microsoft and switch to SQL Server but then we all have our personal
> preferences but mine are based on leading a team of DBAs looking after
> more than 100 servers running a variety of operating systems and
> databases.
No, it would be more expensive. We use the cloud where it makes sense,
but for many of our services, the operational costs of a year in the
cloud exceed the capital costs associated with five years of that service.
> The second thing I'd look at is the efficiency of getting money from
> donators to OSM. PayPal takes a cut on the way and a more hidden cut
> in the exchange rate.
>
> Bank wires are expensive at both ends. Within Canada we can do low
> cost interact transfers, within the UK again payments into a bank
> account are low cost and very fast.
>
> One thought would be talk nicely to one of the charities that gives us
> some funds today. Sometimes these funds can be earmarked for a
> particular project. Mapping? Perhaps and let people wishing to donate
> to OSM donate via. xyz charity.
None of the above really matters to what this thread is about. The
predicted gap is 500k GBP - efficiencies could reduce this, but it's not
going to change the need for a different fundraising strategy than we
have right now.
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