[Osmf-talk] OSMF Strategic Planning 2023 - call for participation

Tue May 9 20:46:56 UTC 2023

Opera Mini and UC (Mini?) Browser together clock in at 2% worldwide
(hundreds of millions of users 10 years ago, not sure about it today)
- that's a higher ratio than Linux users in most countries:
https://caniuse.com/usage-table

Unfortunately, I don't know anyone from Africa or Asia. Big name
brands can also be purchased like that anew in Europe. Although, over
here, they target higher quality big button models for the elderly so
they are pretty expensive, but the hardware specs table illustrates
its capabilities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMD_Global#Nokia_Series_30+/Feature_Phone_OS_phones

These are the tiers with decreasing cost of purchase and increasing
battery longevity (charging itself can be problematic):

* Android: usually above 1GB RAM, dual core, few days per charge;
* KaiOS: >1GHz cortex A, 256-512MB RAM, 320x240, up to twice as many
days per charge than Android;
* smart feature phones: 16-64MB RAM, a few native apps (some platforms
support closed C++, others J2ME) and proxy browser, a few weeks per
charge;;
* feature phones: 8-16MB RAM, web apps only through proxy browser, up
to a month per charge
* dumb phones: 4-8MB RAM, MCU, no browser, no real app, up to a month per charge

OSM apps already exist for KaiOS (and Android) and it already supports
most web apps through its Firefox rendering engine as well, hence why
I'd focus on other, yet unsolved categories.
https://wiki.osm.org/KaiOS

It also depends on whether we are talking about newly released phones
(they manufacture new models every year from each category above) or
utilization of the cheapest second hand option available - usually
ones shipped from more fortunate countries for hazardous waste
disposal, but reused instead of being dismantled. This last category
could probably be had for free or for a few dollars each.

And if one followed social networking services where they announce
aids about food, crop seeds or water or if they could look up a health
issue online it could literally save life. The question was not about
a choice between taking away their food to give them dumb phones - the
question was whether it could help a lot of people. And if we could do
the port remotely, why shouldn't we?

On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 7:30 PM Mateusz Konieczny via osmf-talk
<osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> What is the market share of such phones?
>
> My understanding (may be wrong) is that smartphones, often old/second-hand/
> third-hand are present very widely.
>
> Also, I suspect that people in such situation are unlikely to contribute to OSM
> mostly due to higher importance pressing needs due to very problematic
> financial situation (in other words people worrying about basic funding for
> themself or their families are unlikely to have a lot of spare time for hobbies
> or civic activities)
>
> May 9, 2023, 19:12 by b.kilhu+ytrwslnopdfujmrtjzkvsxweizfjncifmzdwwypiihjzdikulpnvql+- at gmail.com:
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> What do you think about improving the map web app to also run on dumb
> feature phones? Such devices don't support any apps at all, but they
> can show web pages via an optimizing web proxy such as Opera Mini and
> UC Browser.
>
> They are severely limited, but can run JavaScript for 5 seconds per
> click. They usually bundle launcher icons (which in reality are
> browser bookmarks) to stripped down mobile versions of Google Search,
> Gmail, Facebook, Twitter and such.
>
> By enabling these phones to display an OSM based map and perhaps even
> contribute or update POI, we could gain mappers in the regions that
> would need the most attention.
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:25 PM Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> One of the biggest issues facing OSM in my opinion is the lack of awareness of our project among members of the general public, at least in the US where I am from. Whenever I get a chance I ask people about what navigation apps they use, and if they have heard of OpenStreetMap. Very few people that I have spoken to have heard of OSM, even though many of them are using an app that uses OSM "under the hood." In contrast, almost everyone with whom I have spoken has heard of Wikipedia. The general public is the pool from which we draw new mappers, as well as the pool from which we gain potential financial donations (even if the contribution comes from a foundation or a corporation, it is individuals within those organizations making the decision).
> 1) Conduct a survey of the general public to determine their awareness of OSM, impressions of it, and to what extent they have a basic understanding of how OSM works.
> 2) What can be done to increase awareness of OSM among the general public, especially those that use an OSM based app?
> 3) Reach out to journalists and influencers that write/blog about maps, geography, technology, etc. and encourage them to cover OSM. Take steps to ensure they have complete, accurate, and relevant information about OSM.
> 4) Develop and run an "add my business" website that would allow a business owner to add their business to OSM by simply filling out a form and clicking once on a map. These submissions should be reviewed by an OSM volunteer before actually being added to the map.
> 5) Work with universities, particularly those that have geography/GIS programs to encourage them to have one or more courses about OSM.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 12:13 AM Craig Allan <allan at iafrica.com> wrote:
>
>
> OSMF Members:
>
> There is a general circulation to OSM users asking for comments on the OSMF strategic Plan. Below you'll see the letter which has been sent out.
>
> We especially ask OSMF Members to please review the Strategic Plan.
>
> Part B, about Community Development is the first part we ask you to review.
>
> We'll send out invitations to review Part A, Part C and Part D at two week intervals.
>
> Please sent public responses to the OSM talk list or to the Discussion Board General Page.
>
> Private/Anonymous responses to strategy at osmfoundation.org.
>
> thanks
>
> const stratPlanTeam = ["Craig Allan","Sarah Hoffmann" , "Allan Mustard"];
>
> =====================================================
>
> 2023 Strategic Planning Cycle – Community Participation
>
> The Board of the OpenStreetMap Foundation is revising its Strategic Plan, and invites all OSMF members and the OSM community to participate in this process.
>
> The plan is quite large, so we want to discuss it with you in four phases over the next two months. In each phase we focus on a different aspect of strategic development for the OSMF.
>
> The first phase will be “Cluster B: Community Development for OSM”. We are looking for your comments for only this section for the next two weeks.
>
> If you click through the link to “Cluster B: Community Development for OSM” you will find all the strategems in that cluster listed there.
>
> We would especially like your feedback on just four questions:
>
> What is missing from the plan? Or put differently, what should we add to the plan?
> Are there any inconsistencies in the plan? Does the plan seem to be well aligned with the OSMF Mission and the direction of the OSM movement? Where are any problems?
> Which three strategems are most urgent? Which three must we do really quickly?
> Which three strategems are very important? Which strategems are critical for OpenStreetMap to succeed and grow?
>
> You may of course comment on anything else as well.
>
> If there is debate on this topic on any of the hundreds of social media sites that host OSM-related discussions, you could help us greatly if a member of that site or channel please prepare a summary of the comments and post it (in English) to the team. We cannot follow all of the discussions on all social media ourselves but we do care to hear your voices.
>
> We will mainly follow feedback in these two places:
>
> The OSM community general forum on Discourse at https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/general/38/none
> The OSM community mailing list which you can reach by sending email to talk at openstreetmap.org
>
> You can send private comments to be read only by the strategy team at strategy at osmfoundation.org or you can write individually to Board members.
>
> Due to our small team, we’d like comments to be in English. Machine translation from your language is fine. We have used https://translate.google.com and https://www.deepl.com/en/translator successfully but there are many others that work well.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Craig Allan, Sarah Hoffmann, Allan Mustard
>
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