[Osmf-talk] Google services (was Re: Treasurer's Report)

[Courtney]

In referring to the new service and preferring it to the listserv, I meant
the community forum: https://community.openstreetmap.org/. It has modern
functionality, removes the issue of email, is easier to search, is easier
to thread, and is a lively and active discussion area.

It confuses me that we seem to use both the listserv and the forum, which
creates extra noise and duplication.

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 3:36 AM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The usual culprit for losing emails are the spam traps.  I know of no
> email system that can reliably filter out spam whilst letting through
> legitimate emails.
>
> I seem to recall that 90% of emails are spam by the way.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 01:06 Roland Olbricht, <roland.olbricht at gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Courtney,
>>
>> > Don't even get me started on why do we still use an antiquated
>> > communications channel when we have a perfectly good new one.
>>
>> While GMail is currently used for the mail to @osmfoundation.org, it is
>> losing mail. Meanwhile multiple incidents. I have also seen similar
>> problems with GMail but outside the Foundation.
>>
>> Independently, there are a couple of quirks between Google accounts,
>> GMail and Google Maps, so I (and probably some others) consider Google
>> services as unreliable. Not completely unusable, but caution is necessary.
>>
>> As this is proprietary service, we have no control whether these problem
>> are ever fixed or other problems arise out of the blue.
>>
>> Opposed to this, when I use Markdown in text files piggybacking on other
>> text processing services (online editor, eMail, VCS, whatever), I'm in
>> full control of the content. There is a wide choice of tools to render
>> the Markdown into printable (or screen pretty) documents. Keeping files
>> is a well-understood task since decades, so there is practically zero
>> risk that even any problem can happen. No one can withdraw access,
>> because a copy of the content is on a hard disk physically situated at
>> my desk.
>>
>> This is the problem with Google services: we lose control, for no
>> important reason. In the meanwhile, various incidents have this moved
>> from a theoretical risk to a rare but real problem.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Roland
>>
>>
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