[Osmf-talk] Awareness on Membership software (CiviCRM) issues under Membership WG and Board review

[John Whelan]

I live in Canada so PAYPAL charges me in Canadian dollars and adds fees 
such as a fair chunk of change to the exchange rate.  I have a European 
bank account that I can pay directly from and that's much cheaper for me.

Basically it's the same for anyone paying by PAYPAL unless they pay 
paypal in sterling.

Cheerio John

> Philip Barnes <mailto:phil at trigpoint.me.uk>
> August 9, 2024 3:19 PM
> I can understand that an international money transfer is expensive but 
> surely a personal debit or credit card is no more expensive to osmf 
> than PayPal?
>
> A small comment on 
> <https://supporting.openstreetmap.org/alternative-payment-options/>, 
> shouldn't it say debit or credit card?
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
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> Paul Norman via osmf-talk <mailto:osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org>
> August 9, 2024 12:55 PM
> On 2024-08-08 8:04 a.m., John Whelan wrote:
>
> For membership payments the OSMF prefers credit card or PayPal, or 
> direct debit where applicable 
> <https://supporting.openstreetmap.org/alternative-payment-options/>. 
> The costs of the time to manually process a SEPA transfer are greater 
> than what PayPal takes.
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> John Whelan <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> August 8, 2024 11:04 AM
> If we could get away from Paypal I'd be more than happy.
>
> When paying European invoices I just put the reference number on the 
> payment that goes directly to their bank.  That way I don't pay an 
> inflated exchange rate to paypal.
>
> I note that donations are accepted by bank transfers. 
> https://supporting.openstreetmap.org/
>
> Cheerio John
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> Maggie Cawley <mailto:maggie at openstreetmap.us>
> August 8, 2024 10:36 AM
> Sorry to hear about this! Thanks for the update. We've had similar 
> issues with CiviCRM in the past affecting our elections due to bugs 
> like this w/ 3rd party integrations.
> If the org can swing it, I would highly suggest upgrading to a more 
> robust CRM. It's really helpful for organizational management, and 
> saves a lot of time.
>
> Cheers,
> Maggie
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> Philip Barnes <mailto:phil at trigpoint.me.uk>
> August 6, 2024 11:55 AM
> I have never had a problem with paypal and OSM using different email
> addresses. One just switches to the other and neither need to know the
> other email address.
>
> I do find that I have a paypal account, which is no use to me beyond
> OSM and do wish we used something more common such as a normal
> debit/credit card.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
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