From steve at asklater.com Thu Jan 4 14:40:25 2007 From: steve at asklater.com (SteveC) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:40:25 +0000 Subject: [Party] Bristol GPS volunteer Message-ID: <20070104144025.GV20705@asklater.com> Hi Can someone with a GPS volunteer to take a reading at the Watershed venue, a nearby good pub and a nearby good resteraunt? :) I realise there may be many of the latter two but having it decided before hand is useful if people can only make that on the sat evening. have fun, SteveC steve at asklater.com http://www.asklater.com/steve/ From pldms at mac.com Thu Jan 4 15:34:43 2007 From: pldms at mac.com (Damian Steer) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:34:43 +0000 Subject: [Party] Bristol GPS volunteer In-Reply-To: <20070104144025.GV20705@asklater.com> References: <20070104144025.GV20705@asklater.com> Message-ID: <459D1E93.1040009@mac.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 SteveC wrote: > Hi > > Can someone with a GPS volunteer to take a reading at the Watershed > venue, a nearby good pub and a nearby good resteraunt? :) If I can dig out a GPS at home I should be able to do it tomorrow. > I realise there may be many of the latter two but having it decided > before hand is useful if people can only make that on the sat evening. You'd be surprised how few good pubs there are in the centre, and (of course) they'll be busy. Restaurants (OTOH) should be pretty easy. Do we have any idea of numbers at all? IIRC one can book one of the rooms in the Llandoger Trow [1], which would make our lives easier. The King William (on the same street) is nice, too, and tends to be quieter. Damian [1] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFnR6TAyLCB+mTtykRAjsVAKCnBIOqqIDvFk3lEtBIIF3fz5vrNQCghfwO 8EqmbefwUJqujliVlZAi+J8= =hso9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From steve at asklater.com Thu Jan 4 22:24:46 2007 From: steve at asklater.com (SteveC) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:24:46 +0000 Subject: [Party] OpenStreetMap Bristol mass wardrive weekend In-Reply-To: <459D0CCD.8080408@mac.com> References: <459D0CCD.8080408@mac.com> Message-ID: <20070104222446.GF22955@asklater.com> > My inclination is to say use the Watershed both days, since people won't Is that possible? have fun, SteveC steve at asklater.com http://www.asklater.com/steve/ From nickblack1 at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 20:23:58 2007 From: nickblack1 at gmail.com (Nick Black) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:23:58 +0000 Subject: [Party] State of the map Message-ID: <223020e60701211223x5f129d8bqffc18119aa031604@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I've been thinking about a few things for the conference. First, we'll need some way to decide which papers go into which track, and perhaps which papers we dont accept at all - it could be that we have 100s of submissions. The community should certainly decide, and I would propose that this is done through IRC meetings - once we have abstracts we should meet and decide which ones go where etc. Someone is going to have be responsible for collecting abstracts - I'll volunteer for this task. (Unless we just get people to post them to the wiki?) Secondly, do we think that the wiki will suffice as the main website for the conference or do we need a static site that allows people to sign up, pay, register their T-shirt size, dietery requiremens, and submit abstracts from. Are there any volunteers for making the site? Third - email addresses. I guess people are going to take responsibility for different parts of the conference. I think it could be time for a press at openstreetmap.org, abstracts at openstreetmap.org etc email adresses. It makes us look a lot more professional. I am basing a lot of this on my experience with the FOSS4G conference [1], which was quite honestly, the pinnacle of organisation. Take a look at their site, I think a lot of the functionality is still there. Finally, my brother would like to film the conference for us. He studies film and media production, and will hopefully be able to borrow a badass camera from his college. He'll then be able to edit it all down and produce DVDs that we can sell. I think he's going to email this list this evening. What would also be cool would be to have a live feed of procedings - audio and visual so that people can watch in real time, from where ever they are in the world. This should all be within our abilities, but would require another camera and Internet access. [1] http://www.foss4g2006.org/ -- Nick Black -------------------------------- http://www.blacksworld.net From tomblack10 at gmail.com Sun Jan 21 20:31:37 2007 From: tomblack10 at gmail.com (Tom Black) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:31:37 +0000 Subject: [Party] thanks Message-ID: <11a82fbd0701211231p511f6558sa80d8f15dd781285@mail.gmail.com> Hello My name is Tom Black and my brother Nick has informed me about the conference which is being held in Manchester 14th - 15th July 2007. Iam a student at the Isle of Man College studying Multimedia and Nick has said that OSM are looking for someone to film the conference ! This would be a highly vaulable experience to my course and I would be extremely interested in the conference. I look forward to your reply ! TOM BLACK -- Isle of Man Junior Development Team Rider Manx Road Club 1st Year Junior National Schoolboys GHS 10 mile Champion Team 2005 + 2006 Tom Black 8 Pinehurst Ave IM2 1PJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikel_maron at yahoo.com Mon Jan 22 09:54:50 2007 From: mikel_maron at yahoo.com (Mikel Maron) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:54:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Party] State of the map Message-ID: <730738.23249.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just curious .. how are submissions managed and approved for Wikimania? ----- Original Message ---- From: Nick Black To: Party at openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:23:58 PM Subject: [Party] State of the map Hello, I've been thinking about a few things for the conference. First, we'll need some way to decide which papers go into which track, and perhaps which papers we dont accept at all - it could be that we have 100s of submissions. The community should certainly decide, and I would propose that this is done through IRC meetings - once we have abstracts we should meet and decide which ones go where etc. Someone is going to have be responsible for collecting abstracts - I'll volunteer for this task. (Unless we just get people to post them to the wiki?) Secondly, do we think that the wiki will suffice as the main website for the conference or do we need a static site that allows people to sign up, pay, register their T-shirt size, dietery requiremens, and submit abstracts from. Are there any volunteers for making the site? Third - email addresses. I guess people are going to take responsibility for different parts of the conference. I think it could be time for a press at openstreetmap.org, abstracts at openstreetmap.org etc email adresses. It makes us look a lot more professional. I am basing a lot of this on my experience with the FOSS4G conference [1], which was quite honestly, the pinnacle of organisation. Take a look at their site, I think a lot of the functionality is still there. Finally, my brother would like to film the conference for us. He studies film and media production, and will hopefully be able to borrow a badass camera from his college. He'll then be able to edit it all down and produce DVDs that we can sell. I think he's going to email this list this evening. What would also be cool would be to have a live feed of procedings - audio and visual so that people can watch in real time, from where ever they are in the world. This should all be within our abilities, but would require another camera and Internet access. [1] http://www.foss4g2006.org/ -- Nick Black -------------------------------- http://www.blacksworld.net _______________________________________________ Party mailing list Party at openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/party From nickblack1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 09:59:36 2007 From: nickblack1 at gmail.com (Nick Black) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:59:36 +0000 Subject: [Party] State of the map In-Reply-To: <730738.23249.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <730738.23249.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <223020e60701220159o3b737ca7y90083a6e7dc86e74@mail.gmail.com> Juding by: http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_papers and the non-wiki http://cfp.wikimania.wikimedia.org/ There is a set of themes and then papers are submitted to an email address and the decision is made by a committee. On 1/22/07, Mikel Maron wrote: > Just curious .. how are submissions managed and approved for Wikimania? > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Nick Black > To: Party at openstreetmap.org > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:23:58 PM > Subject: [Party] State of the map > > Hello, > > I've been thinking about a few things for the conference. > > First, we'll need some way to decide which papers go into which track, > and perhaps which papers we dont accept at all - it could be that we > have 100s of submissions. The community should certainly decide, and > I would propose that this is done through IRC meetings - once we have > abstracts we should meet and decide which ones go where etc. Someone > is going to have be responsible for collecting abstracts - I'll > volunteer for this task. (Unless we just get people to post them to > the wiki?) > > Secondly, do we think that the wiki will suffice as the main website > for the conference or do we need a static site that allows people to > sign up, pay, register their T-shirt size, dietery requiremens, and > submit abstracts from. Are there any volunteers for making the site? > > Third - email addresses. I guess people are going to take > responsibility for different parts of the conference. I think it > could be time for a press at openstreetmap.org, > abstracts at openstreetmap.org etc email adresses. It makes us look a > lot more professional. > > I am basing a lot of this on my experience with the FOSS4G conference > [1], which was quite honestly, the pinnacle of organisation. Take a > look at their site, I think a lot of the functionality is still there. > > Finally, my brother would like to film the conference for us. He > studies film and media production, and will hopefully be able to > borrow a badass camera from his college. He'll then be able to edit > it all down and produce DVDs that we can sell. I think he's going to > email this list this evening. > > What would also be cool would be to have a live feed of procedings - > audio and visual so that people can watch in real time, from where > ever they are in the world. This should all be within our abilities, > but would require another camera and Internet access. > > [1] http://www.foss4g2006.org/ > > > > -- > Nick Black > -------------------------------- > http://www.blacksworld.net > > _______________________________________________ > Party mailing list > Party at openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/party > > > > -- Nick Black -------------------------------- http://www.blacksworld.net From jochen at remote.org Mon Jan 22 10:38:50 2007 From: jochen at remote.org (Jochen Topf) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:38:50 +0100 Subject: [Party] State of the map In-Reply-To: <223020e60701211223x5f129d8bqffc18119aa031604@mail.gmail.com> References: <223020e60701211223x5f129d8bqffc18119aa031604@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070122103850.GA9144@eldorado.remote.org> On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:23:58PM +0000, Nick Black wrote: > First, we'll need some way to decide which papers go into which track, > and perhaps which papers we dont accept at all - it could be that we > have 100s of submissions. The community should certainly decide, and > I would propose that this is done through IRC meetings - once we have > abstracts we should meet and decide which ones go where etc. Someone > is going to have be responsible for collecting abstracts - I'll > volunteer for this task. (Unless we just get people to post them to > the wiki?) I suggest using some kind of software for handling that. I have been involved in organizing several conferences (including Linux-Kongress, LinuxTag, FOSTEL, ...) and without any kind of software, managing the submissions gets very confusing and more work than really necessary. Have a look at Pentabarf (http://pentabarf.org/Main_Page), the software the Chaos Communications Club developed for its conferences. I have never used it, but it seems to be the only working Open Source software of that kind. (I have used several other homegrown systems and also developed on them, but they are all very incomplete and hard to use.) Also I am note sure it is a good idea to let the community as a whole decide on the presentations. Putting together a good program is a lot of work, you'll have to read all abstracts and discuss what combination would be best etc. All the conferences I know of have a programm committee, which decides things. But we could certainly put everybody who volunteers into that committee. :-) Did you use the community approach for FOSS4G? How did it work out? > Secondly, do we think that the wiki will suffice as the main website > for the conference or do we need a static site that allows people to > sign up, pay, register their T-shirt size, dietery requiremens, and > submit abstracts from. Are there any volunteers for making the site? If the conference is free, the Wiki is enough. But if people have to pay and you have to keep track of that you'll need some kind of software. Last time I looked Pentabarf was good at that paper submission stuff, but didn't do registration. I am not sure about the status there, so have a look at it. Jochen -- Jochen Topf jochen at remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 From jochen at remote.org Mon Jan 22 10:45:17 2007 From: jochen at remote.org (Jochen Topf) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:45:17 +0100 Subject: [Party] State of the map In-Reply-To: <223020e60701211223x5f129d8bqffc18119aa031604@mail.gmail.com> References: <223020e60701211223x5f129d8bqffc18119aa031604@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070122104517.GB9144@eldorado.remote.org> On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:23:58PM +0000, Nick Black wrote: > Finally, my brother would like to film the conference for us. He > studies film and media production, and will hopefully be able to > borrow a badass camera from his college. He'll then be able to edit > it all down and produce DVDs that we can sell. I think he's going to > email this list this evening. I think it is a great idea to film the conference. And many thanks to Tom for offering to do that! But I don't think producing DVDs and selling them is the the most import thing we can do with those videos. Not many people would buy them so the money made is probably negligable. But if the videos can be downloaded from/watched on the web site it is a great advertisment for the project. It would also help those OSM people who couldn't come to the conference to learn more things. (We can also do an audio only version suitable for listening to on your mp3 player. I follow a lot of conferences that way.) Jochen -- Jochen Topf jochen at remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 From nickblack1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 22 10:59:01 2007 From: nickblack1 at gmail.com (Nick Black) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:59:01 +0000 Subject: [Party] State of the map In-Reply-To: <20070122103850.GA9144@eldorado.remote.org> References: <223020e60701211223x5f129d8bqffc18119aa031604@mail.gmail.com> <20070122103850.GA9144@eldorado.remote.org> Message-ID: <223020e60701220259h4c3af218qd22895da9c6a62d9@mail.gmail.com> I'm in almost total agreance with you, Jochen. I was considering creating a Rails app to do the management - but Pentabarf looks like it will do it for us - fantastic. As far as thd DVDs, I see your point. We could just stick the final, edited DVD on our bit-torrent tracker and let people download it as needed. I think live feeds is a good way to go as well. I wasnt at all involvd with the organisation of FOSS4G - I just turned up and enjoyed the hard work, but those guys had an organising committee wich met on IRC every week for a year. These things take *loads* of organisation. So then, I think we should send a one off mail to all the OSM lists asking people to add their names to the wiki if they want to be on an organising committee. I'll start to look at Pentabarf (prob not for a couple of days) and try and get it sorted. We'll need Mongrel installed on one of our boxes - which should be happening when the rails port kicks in anyway. Nick On 1/22/07, Jochen Topf wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 08:23:58PM +0000, Nick Black wrote: > > First, we'll need some way to decide which papers go into which track, > > and perhaps which papers we dont accept at all - it could be that we > > have 100s of submissions. The community should certainly decide, and > > I would propose that this is done through IRC meetings - once we have > > abstracts we should meet and decide which ones go where etc. Someone > > is going to have be responsible for collecting abstracts - I'll > > volunteer for this task. (Unless we just get people to post them to > > the wiki?) > > I suggest using some kind of software for handling that. I have been > involved in organizing several conferences (including Linux-Kongress, > LinuxTag, FOSTEL, ...) and without any kind of software, managing the > submissions gets very confusing and more work than really necessary. > > Have a look at Pentabarf (http://pentabarf.org/Main_Page), the software > the Chaos Communications Club developed for its conferences. I have > never used it, but it seems to be the only working Open Source software > of that kind. (I have used several other homegrown systems and also > developed on them, but they are all very incomplete and hard to use.) > > Also I am note sure it is a good idea to let the community as a whole > decide on the presentations. Putting together a good program is a lot of > work, you'll have to read all abstracts and discuss what combination > would be best etc. All the conferences I know of have a programm > committee, which decides things. But we could certainly put everybody > who volunteers into that committee. :-) Did you use the community > approach for FOSS4G? How did it work out? > > > Secondly, do we think that the wiki will suffice as the main website > > for the conference or do we need a static site that allows people to > > sign up, pay, register their T-shirt size, dietery requiremens, and > > submit abstracts from. Are there any volunteers for making the site? > > If the conference is free, the Wiki is enough. But if people have to pay > and you have to keep track of that you'll need some kind of software. > Last time I looked Pentabarf was good at that paper submission stuff, > but didn't do registration. I am not sure about the status there, so > have a look at it. > > Jochen > -- > Jochen Topf jochen at remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 > > -- Nick Black -------------------------------- http://www.blacksworld.net From cygnus3 at btopenworld.com Thu Jan 25 10:09:36 2007 From: cygnus3 at btopenworld.com (Steve Woods) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:09:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Party] Press release - a missing bit Message-ID: <20070125100936.51124.qmail@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi all At Pete Ferne's request I've had a look at the press release page for the forthcoming weekend on the wiki and edited it into more of a conventionally formatted release. All that it needs now, in my opinion, is a short (2 sentences) but relevant quote from the further information contact mentioned - Andy Robinson - or someone prepared to act as a local contact. Could someone kindly attend to this? Cheers Woodsy http://straightouttaeaston.wordpress.com From Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 25 10:49:02 2007 From: Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk (Andy Robinson) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:49:02 -0000 Subject: [Party] Press release - a missing bit In-Reply-To: <20070125100936.51124.qmail@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20070125100936.51124.qmail@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If it's this weekend's London mapping then I'm not about so it would need to be someone else. Andy Andy Robinson Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: party-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:party- >bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Steve Woods >Sent: 25 January 2007 10:10 AM >To: party at openstreetmap.org >Subject: [Party] Press release - a missing bit > >Hi all > >At Pete Ferne's request I've had a look at the press >release page for the forthcoming weekend on the wiki >and edited it into more of a conventionally formatted >release. All that it needs now, in my opinion, is a >short (2 sentences) but relevant quote from the >further information contact mentioned - Andy Robinson >- or someone prepared to act as a local contact. Could >someone kindly attend to this? > >Cheers >Woodsy > >http://straightouttaeaston.wordpress.com > >_______________________________________________ >Party mailing list >Party at openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/party From steve at asklater.com Mon Jan 29 10:58:47 2007 From: steve at asklater.com (SteveC) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:58:47 +0000 Subject: [Party] irc this week Message-ID: <20070129105847.GB21640@asklater.com> figure we should have another meet this week.. so wednesday at 8 as usual. have fun, SteveC steve at asklater.com http://www.asklater.com/steve/