[openstreetmap-website] Make iD default editor (#453)
Richard Fairhurst
richard at systemeD.net
Thu Aug 22 11:15:07 UTC 2013
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> While you're at it, why don't you quickly deploy a modificiation to
> Potlatch that deletes every relation it touches, so that you can then
> innocently whistle about iD certainly not being worse in that department
> either?
I greatly resent your implication that I am deliberately making P2 worse
or, as you put it rather more directly on IRC, "haha look i can fuck up
potlatch however i like".
Everywhere apart from paranoidland, adding an optional,
deselected-by-default, tracking-free checkbox to open a Twitter intent
window after save is a new feature and therefore good news. Since
generally speaking the inhabitants of paranoidland would rather
sandpaper their eyeballs than use a Flash-based editor, this is a moot
point anyway.
As the maintainer of P2, I actively want to get it the hell away from
being the default on the Edit tab. That is not just because I,
personally, think iD is better suited for the new user and for probably
a majority of future OSM users of all stripes. Nor is it just because in
2013, having the default editor in Flash is objectively bonkers; and nor
is it just because neither I nor what passes for "the P2 developers" are
resourced to respond to the support burden of running the default editor
on a fast-growing site.
It is because Potlatch (1 and 2) has always been best suited to quick,
survey-intensive, outdoor-centric editing by the intermediate-level
user. That is what it was written for (the majority use case in OSM back
then); that is what its UI is best suited for; and that is what, as
maintainer, I would like it to continue to be.
Being the default editor forces a set of UI compromises that make this
experience worse. Fading in background tiles is a good example; this is
a more smooth, welcoming experience for the new user, but is a slow PITA
for the more experienced user. I have now removed that and would like to
continue in that vein - in particular, ripping out the existing tagging
UI and replacing it with something simpler and more efficient for the
user who already has a reasonable understanding of OSM tags. (It can't
be right that even the P2 maintainer avoids using the default tag UI.)
But I can hardly rip out the "user-friendly" tagging UI when P2 is still
the default editor.
That is precisely why P2's help screen (shown on the first edit of all)
now makes (non-IE) first-time users aware that iD may be a better option
for them. P2 is not a very good editor for the unchurched and nor do I
particularly want to bend it to be so. The sooner iD becomes the
default, the better it is for users of both editors.
But if you really do think I've suddenly turned round and am trying to
actively "fuck up" the last seven years of blood, sweat and tears for
some unexplained reason... well, just, well.
Richard
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