[openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website] Provide link to RapiD in edit drop down menu (#2708)

Adamant36 notifications at github.com
Fri Jul 17 06:36:34 UTC 2020


> ou're perhaps unaware of the background but there has been considerable agitation in the community recently around the way in which decisions made by the authors of popular editors can become de facto community standards.

I'm semi-aware of it. Although, I don't follow the minutia of the faux outrage conversations that seem to take place regularly on the mailing list around the topic. From the experience I have had dealing with it though, things seem to be mostly overblown and based on faulty assumptions about the motivations of the people who have developed the tools a small minority of the community have a problem with. 

Not that I wan't to get into a huge conversation about it either, but there is no good shared definition of what an automated edit is. Which often leads to a lot of unfounded accusations and wastes of everyone's time. I don't put it on the developers of the editing software that the DWG (or whoever it is) can't came to an agreement on what exactly the meaning of or rules around these things are. I've seen plenty of instances where even people in the DWG can't agree. 

For instance I see it happen all the time that one of them threatens to block someone for something that another member says is perfectly fine. IMO the systemic dysfunction really needs to be worked out and there needs to be solid shared definitions of the things people have problems with before anyone can  justifiably point the finger at any one person or piece of software. That goes for certain people involved in this discussion also. 

In the meantime I don't see a problem with listing RapiD when it has the same problems JOSM does. As was pointed out by Simonpoole before his message was deleted. Otherwise, remove the recommendation to use JOSM from the site until they fix their issue. 

> As a result there are moves (which are nothing to do with the maintainers of this repository) to exert control over the way in which decisions are made around what means of mapping and tagging are promoted to users of those editors.

That said, I'm not saying care shouldn't be taken. But as far as I know the way RapiD currently works they aren't "promoting" any tags. Since they are only using the defaults that everyone is already using to map buildings and roads. I guess that could change in the future though, but maybe if you listed RapiD editor on the main site with the cavet that it will be removed when they do start promoting tags it would incentives them not to. I'd image a lot of traffic would be sent their way because of it listed on site and it's not like it's that hard to remove a link to something if it violates your terms. That's just a basic thing websites deal with and I fail to see what's special about it here. 

I don't think just because you have a link to somewhere that it means your endorsing, or responsible for, everything it does. For instance you advertise OSM meetings and conferences all the time when you have zero control over what takes place at them or who is suggesting what at the conference. I'm not up on my GDPR nuances, but I didn't think it extended to just linking to something. I'd image plenty of companies in the United Kingdom link to Facebook though. 








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