[Routing] Crowdsourced costing - offer of writing a client+metric for it
j2megps
j2megps at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 3 07:51:37 GMT 2008
After reading this crowdsourced costing email, I assume that OSM community is
now start to work on collect routing information?
But before we start to collect routing information, do we have any new data
model to store routing node information? or we just use existing OSM data
model (node/way/relation) and add more tags to the way element?
If you are planning to add new data model (node/way/relation/routing node)
to store routing node information, can we reconsider my idea about adding
routing node element into OSM database that I posted long time ago?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing_with_osm_data
Regards,
Marcus Wolschon - Wolschon Softwaredesign wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I suggest a service that collects the following data:
>
> collection:
> * vehicly-category (car,bike,foot,ship,other)
> * vehicle-type (String, freely chosen with some presets)
> ** vehicly-subtype (flow, normal, fast)
> ** used metric (String, freely chosen, presets: fastest, shortest,
> efficient, scenic, mapping)
> * average speed in km/h
> * way-ID, startNode, endNode
> * day = (weekday,weekend,holiday)
> * time = (night,morning,afternoon)
> ** sub-time = (early,mid,late)
>
> example: car-fast, 123-456 on way 789 with 78km/h at early morning
>
> privacy:
> * the user-application is supposed to care about not sending
> information about a user-chosen radius around the start and end of a
> route
> * we do not receive exact times or dates because there is no need to care
> about them anyway
> * we do not receive user-identifications at all
> * the IP and upload-time are stored to revert manually detected vandalism
>
> retrieval:
> * the service can be asked with the same query-parameters that collection
> has
> * if a significant number of exact matches exist, they are returned
> * if not it uses data for other streets of this highway-value, other
> vehicly-types,...
> and multiplies the difference
> e.g. (average for noon everywhere)/(average of all times everywhere) as
> an offset
> to give better estimates where it has no exact data.
>
> This can be hosted as a web-service with SOAP and a WSDL to be usable for
> pretty much all programming-languages and platforms. The data would not be
> stored in the OSM-database at all but in a separate database.
>
> A prototype can be written e.g. in google-app-engine to gather
> real-world-experience
> with this kind of service.
> I am offering to implement a well documented client and a metric for such
> a
> service as a plugin into my own navigation-software Traveling Salesman as
> a
> testbed and reference-implementation.
>
> I am currently busy debugging my osmbin indexed, mutable, binary
> file-format for
> osm-data. So I do not know if I can find the time to write such a service
> myself
> in the next weeks but I sure would like to.
>
> Marcus
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:37:12 +0200, "Nic Roets" <nroets at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Of the 3 ideas I'm most inclined to agree with Frederik. From the
>> discussions on talk regarding smoothness and the slowdown in user edits,
>> it's clear that the community is willing to fine tune all supported
> routing
>> tags, provided it's easy and (nearly) interactive:
>> * 1 numeric parameter per way for each vehicle type.
>> * Allow hundreds of vehicle types. Anything from a courier delivering
>> documents to a tourist on a mountain bike taking the scenic route. Anyone
>> who disagrees with your (subjective) tagging, should just add their own
>> vehicle type.
>
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