[Sotm-asia] Let's re-start discussion about SotM Asia!!

Fri Jun 28 01:40:42 UTC 2013

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your interest.
I think it's difficult to find a time that works for everyone, but I'm sure
this won't be the only meeting.
Right now Saturday is the day with the least votes. On Friday there was a
popular slot and on Monday, though as this was a very late announcement, I
thought until Monday everyone has more time to prepare and maybe collect
some additional information about venues. etc.

I think that for some of us the meeting time doesn't matter that much, but
for some only after work or on the weekend is possible.
Right now it seems that weekdays are more popular ... but if someone is
totally unhappy about the times I selected (@Eugene ?), then we can add
more options.

Daniel

PS: I hope it's OK that I don't extend Doodle until next week ... otherwise
we end up with a hundred possible time slots ;)

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 Saturday
>
> I am very sorry to say that I must travel on Monday.
>
> I am excited about participating in the planning, and I would like to
> recommend pushing back until Wednesday or the next Monday.
>
> That said, I would not slow the group down,; I look forward to the next
> meeting if I cannot make this one.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Satoshi IIDA <nyampire at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> +1 to Monday.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/28 Daniel Kastl <daniel at georepublic.de>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Right now there are 2 preferred slots, one today and one on Monday
>>> http://www.doodle.com/k6ssut2nhdcredvf
>>>
>>> Since not so many have added their name yet, what about Monday?
>>> This gives a bit more time for others to join and prepare.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Taichi Furuhashi <taichi at osmf.jp>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've done on the Doodle
>>>> http://www.doodle.com/k6ssut2nhdcredvf
>>>>
>>>> Public Discussion tool -> HackPad +1
>>>> https://hackpad.com/SotM-Asia-Venue-discussion-6cIv1RmFqKv
>>>>
>>>> Exchanging files, voting and sharing to only Organizing Members. ->
>>>> Facebook Group +1
>>>> (I will make draft group on Facebook soon)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> from Taichi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/6/27 Daniel Kastl <daniel at georepublic.de>
>>>>
>>>>> Just to get an idea who can attend when, here is some Doodle schedule:
>>>>> http://www.doodle.com/k6ssut2nhdcredvf
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't want to create too many options, so for now there is just
>>>>> tomorrow, Saturday and Monday.
>>>>> And I assume that nobody wants to have a meeting before 8AM and after
>>>>> 11PM.
>>>>> If you think we should add more options, please tell me.
>>>>> If we none of the days works, we just extend by a few more days next
>>>>> week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Satoshi IIDA <nyampire at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 to IRC chat or G+ hangout.
>>>>>> But due to our time zone are vary,
>>>>>> I guess we need a base docs before team discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hackpad will be better, i think. (or Google Drive?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://hackpad.com/SotM-Asia-Venue-discussion-6cIv1RmFqKv
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/6/27 Kate Chapman <kate.chapman at hotosm.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't discussed it with the group in Indonesia but I think Bali
>>>>>>> would also be a potential location or maybe Yogyakarta.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think having two events together is one thing to keep in mind. We
>>>>>>> should probably also look at the potential of sponsorship as well. Are
>>>>>>> there locations that are going to be able to receive financial support if
>>>>>>> SotM-Asia is there instead of somewhere else. This could potentially reduce
>>>>>>> ticket costs for attendees for example. I haven't completely discussed it
>>>>>>> with everyone we work with in Indonesia, but that is maybe a possibility
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps scheduling an IRC chat would be a good way to hash things
>>>>>>> out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Kate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Daniel Kastl <
>>>>>>> daniel at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts on SotM-Asia, because I had a chance to talk
>>>>>>>> about this with Venka yesterday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think right now we talk about three options:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Indonesia (Jakarta)
>>>>>>>>    - Philippines (Manila)
>>>>>>>>    - Thailand (Bangkok)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have not talked about any "call for venue" procedure, but there
>>>>>>>> is not much time left until December or January.
>>>>>>>> It's obvious that there is a strong interest to have SotM-Asia,
>>>>>>>> which is a) affordable for people from Asian countries and b) in a country
>>>>>>>> where Visa applications are not a nightmare for many.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For this first SotM-Asia the time for planning and organization
>>>>>>>> would be very limited, and to me it seems that in Thailand a rough concept,
>>>>>>>> an interesting venue and idea for SotM already exists.
>>>>>>>> Also there is another strong argument in my opinion for Thailand in
>>>>>>>> case we combine SotM Asia with FOSS4G Asia: we could celebrate 10 years
>>>>>>>> FOSS4G anniversary then in the country where the first FOSS4G was held.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking at who is interested to organize SotM-Asia, most of us are
>>>>>>>> involved in OSM and also OSGeo. So I don't expect anybody would be against
>>>>>>>> a combined FOSS4G/SotM event.
>>>>>>>> Making a combined event also doesn't force people with a smaller
>>>>>>>> budget to choose between either SotM or FOSS4G. This year in UK the
>>>>>>>> situation is very unfortunate with a rather long break between both events.
>>>>>>>> How does someone from Philippines want to explain a EU immigration officer
>>>>>>>> that he needs a Visa for almost 4 weeks? To afford such a long stay or
>>>>>>>> explain to your employer is another question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I would propose to make a rather quick and pragmatic decision,
>>>>>>>> that the local team can get started as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>> And it would be great to already be able to announce the 2nd
>>>>>>>> SotM-Asia in December/January, so why not already think about the next
>>>>>>>> years and try to start planning early.
>>>>>>>> Maybe we can join efforts this year to get some tools in place that
>>>>>>>> simplify planning and organizing of future events. I want to avoid that a
>>>>>>>> local team needs to almost start from scratch every year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Satoshi IIDA
>>>>>> mail: nyampire at gmail.com
>>>>>> twitter: @nyampire
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