[Sotm-asia] Fwd: SOTM Asia Decision Making

Frans Thamura frans at meruvian.org
Fri Sep 13 12:13:54 UTC 2013


Dear Taichi

Can add me?

But still not.put my name in wiki

F
On Sep 13, 2013 3:11 PM, "Taichi Furuhashi" <taichi at osmf.jp> wrote:

> Daniel-san and other committee members:
>
>
> In addition,
> Mainly, we should discuss on the committee mailing list,
> But, if, when you determine that it is information that should be public,
> Could you send information to this mailing list?
>
> We should share important information to general mappers.
>
> Regards,
>
> from Taichi
>
>
>
>
> 2013/9/13 Taichi Furuhashi <taichi at osmf.jp>
>
>> Dainel-san and all:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your comment.
>>
>> Yes, I understand.
>> But, you know,
>> lists.openstreetmap.org is full open mailing list.
>>
>> We have to share and discuss about sponsars and other information.
>> And also, general mappers don't want read detaild TODOs.
>>
>> We should divide, like
>>
>>  sotm-asia at openstreetmap.org -> Full open discussing place for SotM Asia
>>
>>  sotm-asia-team at googlegroups.com -> Core discussion place for SotM Asia
>> Committee like the team at stateofthemap.org
>>
>>
>> Just now,
>> I've send invitations of sotm-asia-team at googlegroups.com to all
>> committee members.
>>
>> All means "
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing
>> ".
>>
>> Please confirm your mail box.
>>
>>
>> If other people want to join to Committee ML, we are welcome.
>> Please write your name on the members list.
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> from Taichi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/9/13 Daniel Kastl <daniel at georepublic.de>
>>
>>> Furuhashi-san
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be better to create a mailing list on
>>> lists.openstreetmap.org?
>>> I would prefer not have one list here and one there.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Taichi Furuhashi <taichi at osmf.jp>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm back from SotM Birmingham!
>>>> Just now, I'm making a committee mailing list on the Googlr groups.
>>>>
>>>> wait a moment!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> from Taichi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/9/12 Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> In Bogor, we will NOT do it this year, we WILL do it Next SOTM ASIA.
>>>>> It is a compromise. We can do it this year, but, Thailand will not back
>>>>> down. The whole initiative is suffering, so, we back down and aim for
>>>>> Indonesia next year.  Full support for Thailand this year.
>>>>>
>>>>> My team will join to develop common infrastructure. We may even ask
>>>>> some grants to help with website for sessions from this year and next year,
>>>>> and really hope to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this moment I feel it is important to work on what can be done for
>>>>> Thailand.  I am resigned to see through a transition to a more formal
>>>>> process for SOTM Asia in general.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sense that Thailand has potential to prototype some re-usable
>>>>> infrastructure for next SOTM Asia. Regarding revenue, that is a discussion
>>>>> for a leadership group, and should be couched in longer term thinking.
>>>>>  This discussion seems to be about short term. SO, better left for a
>>>>> different thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Sarawut Ninsawat <
>>>>> sarawut.ait at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In last two months, I thought that the decision were made for Bogor.
>>>>>> However, I were wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My answer for Daniel is "We want to do it" Even it will make a
>>>>>> difficult situation since there is no proper way in SoTM Asia for its.
>>>>>> However, it is a good starting point to establish a proper way for future
>>>>>> situation. I would strongly support with Taichi to forming a formal
>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, we need to clarify from last discussion issues on ticket
>>>>>> fee/benefit and so on to make clear. what to do with the money. I would
>>>>>> support idea as it is a risk of organizer then they must get/lost its.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From my side, there is no more progress after proposal in the wiki
>>>>>> since there is no final decision yet. I can revise the proposal if we know
>>>>>> more criteria for venue selection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sarawut
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/9/2556 9:39, fabian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I would like to help organize SotM. I've been waiting for a decision
>>>>>> on the venue for a long time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no problem with either venue. Although I would prefer
>>>>>> Thailand, but looking at how much delay the venue selection have cause,
>>>>>> I'll go with which ever venue that had the most progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Can we list the progress of the both venue and choose based on that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>> Fabian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Daniel Kastl <
>>>>>> daniel at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I'm trying to provide a short summary of the recent posts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Daniel proposes to have SotM Asia 2013 in Indonesia
>>>>>>>    - Taichi and Kate propose to have SotM Asia 2013 in Thailand
>>>>>>>    - Alex proposes a committee for the next years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at the Wiki page (
>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing) and
>>>>>>> the names listed there, there are 13 people listed, but roughly half of
>>>>>>> them haven't shared their opinion on SotM Asia 2013 yet ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  About SotM Asia 2013 I see now these possibilities:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. Bangkok says "we will do it" and Bogor says "we won't do it
>>>>>>>    this year" -> easy decision
>>>>>>>     2. Bangkok says "we won't do it this year" and Bogor says "we
>>>>>>>    will do it" -> easy decision
>>>>>>>    3. Bangkok says "we will do it" and Bogor says "we will do it"
>>>>>>>    -> same difficult situation as before
>>>>>>>    4. Bangkok says "we won't do it this year" and Bogor says "we
>>>>>>>    won't do it this year" -> there won't be a SotM Asia 2013
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would it be OK to get some "unambiguous" statement from both
>>>>>>> candidates? ;-)
>>>>>>>  I haven't heard from Bangkok for quite some time, and while my
>>>>>>> first impression was that there will be a SotM event in Bogor anyway, I'm
>>>>>>> now not sure anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Taichi Furuhashi <taichi at osmf.jp>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi Alex and all:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thanks for your comment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I think so.
>>>>>>>> We should form executive committee of SotM Asia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Main members are below list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Asia_2013#Interested_in_Organizing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  If other people want to work us, please add your name on the wiki.
>>>>>>>> And next step, we have to make new closed mailing list for
>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Should we make sotm-asia-team at groups.google.com ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  from Taichi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  2013/9/7 Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   I wonder if we should form a committee of those active on the
>>>>>>>>> list in the last couple of months to take the issue further.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Discussion?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Sotm-asia mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Sotm-asia at openstreetmap.org
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/sotm-asia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ## Taichi FURUHASHI(MAPconcierge Inc. President)
>>>>>>>> ## MAPconcierge satellite office at http://goo.gl/VgWD6 in NOMAD
>>>>>>>> NEW'SBASE
>>>>>>>> ## Vice-President of OpenStreetMap Foundation Japan with
>>>>>>>> sinsai.info project
>>>>>>>> ## Director of the OSGeo Foundation Japan
>>>>>>>> ## Researcher of the center for spatial info. science, univ.of Tokyo
>>>>>>>> ## TEL/Skype&Twitter&LI&FB: 070-6401-5963 /
>>>>>>>> http://about.me/mapconcierge
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>> Georepublic UG & Georepublic Japan
>>>>>>> eMail: daniel.kastl at georepublic.de
>>>>>>> Web: http://georepublic.de
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Sarawut NINSAWAT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remote Sensing & GIS
>>>>>> School of Engineering and Technology
>>>>>> Asian Institute of Technology (AIT)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.O. Box 4, Klong Luang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand
>>>>>> Telephone: (66 2) 524 6406
>>>>>> Fax: (66 2) 524 5597
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Klong Luang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> ## Taichi FURUHASHI(MAPconcierge Inc. President)
>>>> ## MAPconcierge satellite office at http://goo.gl/VgWD6 in NOMAD
>>>> NEW'SBASE
>>>> ## Vice-President of OpenStreetMap Foundation Japan with sinsai.infoproject
>>>> ## Director of the OSGeo Foundation Japan
>>>> ## Researcher of the center for spatial info. science, univ.of Tokyo
>>>> ## TEL/Skype&Twitter&LI&FB: 070-6401-5963 /
>>>> http://about.me/mapconcierge
>>>> ## URL/Mail: http://www.mapconcierge.jp taichi at mapconcierge.jp
>>>> ## GPS/GigaPan/UAV Shop: http://gpsconcierge.jp
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ## Taichi FURUHASHI(MAPconcierge Inc. President)
>> ## MAPconcierge satellite office at http://goo.gl/VgWD6 in NOMAD
>> NEW'SBASE
>> ## Vice-President of OpenStreetMap Foundation Japan with sinsai.infoproject
>> ## Director of the OSGeo Foundation Japan
>> ## Researcher of the center for spatial info. science, univ.of Tokyo
>> ## TEL/Skype&Twitter&LI&FB: 070-6401-5963 / http://about.me/mapconcierge
>> ## URL/Mail: http://www.mapconcierge.jp taichi at mapconcierge.jp
>> ## GPS/GigaPan/UAV Shop: http://gpsconcierge.jp
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ## Taichi FURUHASHI(MAPconcierge Inc. President)
> ## MAPconcierge satellite office at http://goo.gl/VgWD6 in NOMAD NEW'SBASE
> ## Vice-President of OpenStreetMap Foundation Japan with sinsai.infoproject
> ## Director of the OSGeo Foundation Japan
> ## Researcher of the center for spatial info. science, univ.of Tokyo
> ## TEL/Skype&Twitter&LI&FB: 070-6401-5963 / http://about.me/mapconcierge
> ## URL/Mail: http://www.mapconcierge.jp taichi at mapconcierge.jp
> ## GPS/GigaPan/UAV Shop: http://gpsconcierge.jp
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