[Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 3 14:26:02 BST 2010

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Tremblay <tremblad at gmail.com> wrote:
> For me, bicycle=yes means that it is safe for bicycle or that bicycle is
> officialy allowed on that road.  Maybe I could apply the tag for the
> "sharrow" definition given in the discussion.  Maybe it is the best way to
> do it without creating new tags or tag values.  Bicycle=yes on marked
> sharrow roads might do the job ...

Bicycle=yes means bicycles are allowed. Bicycle=designated means the
road authority has put up signs marking the road as a cycle route.
> But I would not tag unmarked road with bicycle=yes because it become
> suggestive.
> Is a 90km/h primary road safe bikeable?  It there are shoulders, I might go
> on the road, even if there are no marks at all.  But, I would not bring my
> kids on that (shoulder or not).  So, it could be a bicycle=yes for me, but I
> would be misleading for many cyclists.

Yes, it's safe if you ride properly. Most crashes happen at
intersections, where speeds are lower.

> Yes, I can bike on normal lane and I do it.  I don't like however to find
> myself on a 90km/h road with no shoulders.  This is the kind of situation I
> would like to avoid when preparing my trip.  This is why the shoulder
> indicator would be usefull IMO.

I don't think anyone's said a shoulder tag is a bad idea. I'd
recommend using shoulder=paved on roads you know to have them;
nobody's going to remove it and maybe others will start tagging the

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