[Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

Dave F. davefox at madasafish.com
Tue Aug 3 16:46:49 BST 2010

  On 03/08/2010 09:13, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> I'm not sure this is a good idea. cycleway=* should be for something
> designated for cyclists.

I agree.

>   But cyclists aren't required to use the
> shoulder (except on some freeways), so cycleway=shoulder is
> misleading. (They also aren't required to use bike lanes in many
> states, but those are specially designated for bikes, unlike
> shoulders.) To me cycleway=shoulder would mean that there are signs or
> pavement markings marking the shoulder as a bike lane.
> On the other hand, shoulder=yes means nothing for cyclists; it may
> have rumble strips and thus be unusable.

or rain gullies or even vehicles.

>   Perhaps shoulder=smooth vs.
> shoulder=rumble_strips? Or shoulder=yes
> cycle_hazard=shoulder_rumble_strips?
> Shoulders are actually more important to pedestrians than cyclists. A
> good cyclist won't care if there's a shoulder, but a good pedestrian
> must walk against traffic and be prepared to get out of the way if
> walking in the travel lane. So if anything they should be
> footway=shoulder.

You appear to be contradicting yourself. A shoulder is not designated 
for foot use, even if the road is usable by pedestrians.

Dave  F.

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