[Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

[Paul Johnson]

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:56:53 +0200, fly wrote:

> Am 29.07.2010 14:38, schrieb Daniel Tremblay:
>> My need is to give cyclists more info when preparing their rides on
>> road that are not cycleway (nor NCN, RCN, LCN).  I saw the tag
>> "rtc_rate" but not find it very intuitive.
> 
> We need this kind of tags also for cycleways. I know many areas where
> the international cycleway is using a quite heavy loaded street with
> only a cyclelane next to it, where the parallel street is a nice calm
> street.
> 
> I think one tag is not enough or you have to be specific.
> 
> If I am in a hurry with a race-bicycle, I would take the bigger roads
> with cycle-lanes but if I cycle with a 7 year old child I would prefer
> the low traffic road even if there is no cycleway at all.
> 
>> My first thought was to document a little more some road by adding a
>> shoulder tag (yes, no) and a traffic indicator tag (low, moderate,
>> high).  Both responders confirmed that those tags does not exist.  For
>> my cycling need, I would personnaly not go on a highway=secondary with
>> no shoulder and moderate to high traffic ...  But, even with high
>> traffic, I might use that road if there is shoulder ...  And, even
>> without shoulder, I might go there if the traffic indicator is low.
> 
> +1
> This is one way to add more useful information to a road. But we need at
> least shoulder:surface, too

Why would this matter?  Are there actually places where it's legal to 
operate off the hard surface when the road is paved?