[Tagging] Non Proposed Features

Eric Jarvies eric at csl.com.mx
Sun Aug 29 07:34:48 BST 2010

Perhaps all contributors should be required to vote one way or the other.  It should not be an option, and failure to do so after agreeing to such, should have penalty/consequence(like OSMF having right to then convert it to ODbL).

Eric Jarvies

On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:59 PM, John Smith wrote:

> 2010/8/28 Matthias Meißer <digi_c at arcor.de>:
>> You write in the wiki that it is unable to repair it and spot on a working
>> group.
> Just so we're clear, I mean the current prescribed method of requiring
> people to vote on proposals is broken, there is thousands of
> contributors and most proposals don't get more than a dozen votes if
> they are lucky, this doesn't seem to be working to me no.
>> I think this will be a nice idea even if it might result in a discussion if
>> this centralisation might gain to much power even if they are only janitors.
> Also I didn't come up with the idea of a working group or a committee
> to evaluate proposals, but others are completely against this idea as
> well, however the current suggestion of a do-ocracy seems doomed to
> end in endless/pointless disputes as well, take a look at the most
> recent pointless thread over culverts.
> On the surface this seems a complete waste of time to spend hours
> argumenting over something so simple, concrete or similar pipes in the
> ground or under road ways that carry water, yet it went on for days
> because of slight differences of opinion, and because there is no form
> of mediation in place there was no end result (that I saw) and now
> there is going to be 2 groups of thought that go off and do their own
> thing and be incompatible with each other, how is that actually useful
> at all?
> From what I'm told this issue isn't unique to OSM, many different
> government/professional bodies have been having similar debates for
> decades.
>> Should this group be part of the foundation? What tools will they need? Can
>> we modify the wiki to be a nicer tool?
> The wiki should at most be used to document decisions or outcomes or
> usages, it is a very poor way to discuss things, although the mailing
> list isn't always useful either.
> While face to face meetings might sort things out with professional
> bodies, that isn't practical for volunteers to keep funding out of
> their own pockets.
> Teleconferences usually won't help either, languages and even just
> accents can complicate matters and that's before you even start
> dealing with time zones.
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