[Tagging] Charity tagging

[Sean Horgan]

Agreed, social_facility as it is defined focuses on services and shops don't
fit.

I prefer your Dec 4 post where you mentioned charity=shop, or some variation
of a standalone charity key.  There are some interesting comments in the
discussion page of last year's charity proposal by Lulu-Ann:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/charity

<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/charity>I'd rather
try to resurrect the charity proposal as I feel like there are many other
issues/attributes under the surface that would benefit from a standalone
charity key.  So an oxfam bookshop would have these tags:

shop=books
charity=yes

or alternatively

shop=books
charity=shop

The charity tag could follow the same model used by social_facility where
the value of the tag refers to another key, such as in *social_facility*
=healthcare.

Sean

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:19, Laurence Penney <lorp at lorp.org> wrote:

> The whole point of the social_facility, as described on the wiki, is
> clearly around helping people at that place. Charity shops such as Oxfam and
> British Heart Foundation - even if they have broad aims of "social justice"
> - just don't fit into this at all. And RSPCA shops? They explicitly have
> nothing to do with helping people, yet seem to call for very similar tagging
> as the other kinds of charity shop.
>
> I accept that my suggestion about suppliers is more appealing to the
> taxonomist than for the average user, so... how about this for an Oxfam
> bookshop?
>
> shop=books
> shop:charity=yes
>
> - or for an RSPCA general second hand shop:
>
> shop=second_hand
> shop:charity=yes
>
> - L
>
> On 5 Dec 2010, at 02:26, Sean Horgan wrote:
>
> > Good discussion.
> >
> > I'm not sure I follow you WRT non-commercial/state run.  Social facility
> doesn't imply non-commercial, there are plenty of private organizations that
> deliver social services.  In the case of a social facility run by the state,
> I would consider this an act of charity: the giving of help to those in
> need.  In this case, the state is a proxy through which the residents
> provide the services/goods.
> >
> > I definitely agree that social_facility doesn't exactly roll off the
> tongue, especially in the context of charity.  There is little likelihood
> that an average user would type "social facility" into a search box when
> looking for a charity. As much as I'd like to consolidate related entities
> into the same tagging scheme, I know that it can't be forced.
> >
> > Is there a way to mark tags as equivalent, e.g. social_facility=shop <=>
> charity=shop, or more broadly social_facility <=> charity?
> >
> > I like your thinking on supplier=donation but I think it falls into same
> bucket of social_facility=shop: nice for the taxonomy but not the average
> user.  I prefer a simple donation=yes approach.
> >
> > Sean
>
>
>
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