[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Draft - winter & ice roads

Steve Bennett stevagewp at gmail.com
Sun Dec 12 05:43:23 GMT 2010


If that's the distinction, IMHO that would be better expressed other ways:

For a "winter road":

highway=track (or path, or whatever else best represents its quality in summer)
winter_road=yes

For an ice road:
winter_road=yes

So, to know what it's like in summer, you ignore the "winter_road"
attribute: the ice road is nothing at all. To know what it's like in
winter, you look primarily at winter_road=yes. If that's set, then you
can ignore other properties like highway=yes.

This also has the advantage that any renderer/software that doesn't
know about winter roads will err on the side of caution by not showing
anything at all in some cases.

Where life may get complicated is when a way ends up with two names.
Say, a name for a 4wd track, and a different name when it's a winter
road. A route relation might be the best option there.

Steve

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Stephen Hope <slhope at gmail.com> wrote:
> A winter road is on ground (swamp, marsh, mud, dirt) while an ice road
> is on a water feature (lake, bay).  Both need freezing weather for
> good roads, but you can walk along a winter road in summer (if
> allowed), while you'd need a boat for an ice road.
>
> Stephen
>
> On 12 December 2010 08:55, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Gleb,
>>  Good idea, I'm just confused about what you're actually proposing -
>> is it winter_road=yes, or ice_road=yes...or both? If both, what's the
>> difference between the two tags?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius at glebius.int.ru> wrote:
>>>  Hello!
>>>
>>>  Although voting for the surface=winter_road was expected to
>>> succeded, I decided to break at and redo proposal, because
>>> a few mappers were strongly opposing surface= tag.
>>>
>>>  I hope, that with new proposal the voting will succeed with
>>> a bigger yes/no ratio.
>>>
>>>  I also ask to be more active with your critics not in the
>>> Voting stage but in the Draft/RFC.
>>>
>>>  To preserve history, the wiki page is the same:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/surface:winter_road
>>>
>>> --
>>> Totus tuus, Glebius.
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