[Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

[Anthony]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:

> For starters, in many places roads
> with bike lanes prohibit cycling outside the bike lane. And since
> there isn't much difference between a shoulder and a bike lane, it
> doesn't make sense to distinguish between "bicycle=yes" and
> "bicycle=shoulder_only".
>

I wouldn't suggest tagging a road with bicycle=yes if bicycles are only
permitted in a bike lane either.  How's a router supposed to know how to
handle turns if it thinks the bikes are allowed to use the road?

Secondly...I really can't see how the presence or absence of bicycle
> restrictions changes the status of the road at all.


And I can't see how it doesn't.  A motorway is a road which, among other
things, is restricted to motor vehicle traffic.  A road which allows
bicycles doesn't fit that definition.  Of course, if the bicycles aren't
allowed on the roadway - only on the shoulder...I don't know.  OSM doesn't
have good per-lane tagging yet, so no answer is particularly good.  But any
answer which doesn't at least give the information that bicycles are
permitted only on the shoulder (i.e. bicycle=yes) would be unacceptable.

In my area, some

freeways allow bicycles, some don't. It would be completely incorrect
> to presume that those that don't are "more freeway-like".
>

OSM doesn't have a tag of "freeway", so I don't know what you're getting at.


> http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-37.836649,144.801765&z=19&t=h&nmd=20100416
>
> http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-37.790341,145.039779&z=19&t=k&nmd=20100416
>
> You tell me which of those is a highway=motorway and which is a
> highway=trunk.


I'm not familiar enough with how traffic works there to offer a guess.  The
exit/entrance ramps don't seem to provide for a bicycle lane in either
location.  Are bicycles allowed to travel in the same lanes as motor
vehicles?
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