[Tagging] Country names

[Peter Wendorff]

  I'm not sure, if that's a good solution...
It's relatively simple and can be done automatically, but do it hit the 
target?

For most Asian and Arabian countries that would help perhaps: the native 
language uses other character (sub)sets and therefore the rest of the 
world probably don't know how to read it, but let's consider Europe:

Deutschland => Germany: yes, sounds like a good idea for international use
France => France: sounds useless as these are the same (well - you 
ignored same values in the query)
Belgien (german), /België/ 
<http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Nl-Koninkrijk_Belgi%C3%AB.ogg>^ 
<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe:Audio> 
<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Nl-Koninkrijk_Belgi%C3%AB.ogg> 
(netherlands), /Belgique/ (france), Belgium (Englisch)... - is that 
useful to put both onto the map? It's similar in a human mind, I think.

That in mind I would say, we should search for a more sophisticated 
solution; and the best thing (while much work to do) would be to have 
language specific label layers.

regards
Peter

On 14.10.2010 09:59, Peter Körner wrote:
> Am 14.10.2010 08:39, schrieb Jochen Topf:
>> And one problem they have is that maps are hard to use if you
>> can't read half the country names.
>
>> This is one of those problems that will not be solved until the 
>> renderers
>> get more clever and, for instance, take the "name" tag and the 
>> "name:en" tag
>> and put them together in the "local name (english name)" form. Only 
>> then can
>> we tag this consistently. (Feel free to work on that problem :-)
> This sounds doable in the Style's SQL Statements. Currently we use
>
> SELECT name AS local_name,
>        COALESCE(tags->'name:en', name) AS display_name
>   FROM planet_point
>  WHERE tags @> '"place"=>"country"'
>    AND NOT name IS NULL;
>
> but we may also use
> SELECT name AS local_name,
>        CASE WHEN name != (tags->'name:en')
>             THEN name || ' (' || (tags->'name:en') ||')'
>             ELSE name
>         END AS display_name
>   FROM planet_point
>  WHERE tags @> '"place"=>"country"'
>    AND NOT name IS NULL
>  LIMIT 10;
>
> I could set up such a style on the toolserver if it would be helpful, 
> but I'd like to point to the localized maps we currently have in >30 
> languages: http://toolserver.org/~osm/locale/ (use the layer switcher).
>
> Peter
>
>
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