[Tagging] Advice on names for disused/abandoned railways?
Nathan Edgars II
neroute2 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 1 15:51:22 BST 2010
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Phil! Gold <phil_g at pobox.com> wrote:
> The railway portion of the US TIGER import seems to have used the owner of
> the railroad for the name= tag. (And the owners appear to have been
> collected over the course of decades, so the current data doesn't reflect
> a lot of mergers and splits, but that's a separate issue.)
I believe it's from whoever owned it when that area's topo map was created.
>
> As I come across these, I've been moving TIGER's name= value to the
> operator= tag, since that seems more approprate. I've also been adding
> the names of the rail lines when I can determine them. I mention this
> both for context and to see if anyone has any comments on this particular
> course of action.
I've been using old_railway_operator (rather than old_operator because
sometimes a railway is now a highway):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:old_railway_operator
Back when I was mapping a bunch of former railways I created pages
such as http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad to
keep track of status and names.
>
> My question is about disused or abandoned railways. TIGER generally has
> the last owner in the name= tag, which is as wrong as it is for active
> railways. The operator= tag no longer seems appropriate, however, since
> no one's really operating these railways any more. It would be nice to
> preserve the name of the previous operator somewhere; are there any
> conventions around this? (If I were creating tags out of whole cloth, I'd
> probably use last_operator= or operator:last=.)
Sometimes the last operator was a fly-by-night operation organized by
local shippers to buy the line and shut down when they realized how
much it would cost to run.
>
> The actual name of a disused or abandoned railway seems a little iffy,
> too. The names are mostly assigned by the operators and may be renamed or
> reassigned periodically, so if a railway used to be called "X" by its
> previous operator, there's an argument that once it's been abandoned it's
> no longer named "X". Any thoughts on what could be done here?
>
> To make things a little more concrete, the Western Maryland Railway used
> to have a railroad line that ran along the Potomac River in (among others)
> Allegany County. They called this portion of their rail network the West
> Subdivision. The West Subdivision was abandoned and the rail pulled up in
> 1975. In 1983, the Western Maryland Railway merged into the Baltimore and
> Ohio Railroad (which subsequently merged into CSX Transportation).
> Although the rails are gone, some of the rail infrastructure remains,
> mostly bridges and tunnels. I'd like to tag what remains as, "This was
> the West Subdivision of what was at the time the Western Maryland
> Railway." Suggestions welcome.
I would tag that name=West Subdivision old_railway_operator=Western
Maryland Railway, or on parts that are now trails name=Whatever Trail
old_name=West Subdivision.
Unfortunately many older railroads used unimaginative names like 1st
Subdivision and even renamed them when reorganizing divisions. (For
the non-railfans: a division is a portion of a large railroad system,
each managed by its own staff. A subdivision is a single main line,
often the distance a crew can cover in one shift, plus branches.)
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