[Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

[Eric Jarvies]

housing:house/apartment/condominium/mobile_home/public_housing/shanty/fractional/timeshare

here in mexico, many properties have 'shanty' structures that are permanent, albeit cheap/easily dismantled, they are permanent dwellings none the less.

fractionals are usually in ,multi-level/unit structures, but also come in the form of free standing/singular structures, and timeshare are usually within a resort/hotel, and are not commonly referred to as being condominiums per say, but rather, as either timeshares or fractionals, and often times as suites or villas(here in mexico).  mexico has a high percentage of these type of dwellings... how do you think the best way to tag them is?

fractional:1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 3/4(ownership percentage)
timeshare:1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10(weeks)

Eric Jarvies

On Sep 7, 2010, at 9:28 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:

> Other arrangements are common as well, such as duplexes (buildings holding two households); the same property owner owns both halves of the building, and the land underneath both; he or she may live in one half and rent out the other half, or may rent out both halves.
> 
> -------Original Email-------
> Subject :Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments
> From  :mailto:Alan_Mintz+OSM at Earthlink.Net
> Date  :Tue Sep 07 22:07:45 America/Chicago 2010
> 
> 
> At 2010-09-07 17:51, =?UTF-8?Q?M=E2=88=A1rtin_Koppenhoefer?= wrote:
>> 2010/9/8 Alan Mintz <Alan_Mintz+OSM at earthlink.net>:
>>> At 2010-09-04 09:12, Erik Johansson wrote:
>> 
>>> I've taken a slightly different approach. I use landuse=residential to
>>> outline the entire related area. I then add that way to a relation with
>>> role=boundary. I add the various buildings, roads leading to and within,
>>> swimming pools, tennis courts, etc. to the relation. On the relation
>> itself,
>>> I tag:
>>> 
>>> type=site
>>> + site=housing
>>> + housing={house|apartment|condominium|mobile_home|public_housing}
>> 
>> 
>> that's fine, but adding simply the tag
>> housing={house|apartment|condominium|mobile_home|public_housing}
>> to the landuse=residential polygon would have a similar effect.
> 
> True - I wanted to be complete about it, though, so I described how I was
> doing it, since at the time I started (a year or two ago), there was no
> coverage of the subject in the wiki at all.
> 
> 
>>> : house is a single-family detached dwelling where the owner owns the land
>>> and the buildings on it
>>> : apartment is a multi-family dwelling where the tenants pay rent to the
>>> owner of the buildings and land
>>> : condominium is where the tenant "owns" the building (or part of one, as
>>> they are often attached like apartments), but not the land, and pays
>>> proportional rent and maintenance fees for the land and common areas.
>>> : mobile_home is similar to condominium, but using pre-fabricated housing
>>> instead of permanent structures
>>> : public_housing is generally apartments (though occasionally houses) that
>>> are owned by a government agency and occupied by low-income/disabled
>>> tenants.
>> 
>> Your system is a mixture of typology and ownership.
> 
> Intentionally. Sometimes, I don't believe it's necessary to completely
> dissect all of the possible features from every different angle -
> particularly when many of those features may not be discernable from a
> quick survey in person or by records. AFAIK, in the US, these are the types
> of housing available when one goes to look for a place to live - this is
> the way that they are commonly categorized by people both in the real
> estate business and not.
> 
> 
>> The owner situation might be quite dependent on cultur (even locally,
>> i.e. differing from one city to another). In Berlin for instance there
>> are traditionally many people in rented apartments, but you will also
>> quite often find mixed situations: owners and leasers door to door in
>> the same building.
> 
> This can happen in condominiums here, too. You can sometimes get approval
> to rent out your condo. I don't think it's likely to be something you can
> see from a survey, though. It's still going to look like a condo, and be
> one in most respects. I wasn't attempting to be completely rigorous in the
> descriptions - just to try to describe what the thing is for those that do
> not know.
> 
> 
>> There are also people that rent a detached house.
> 
> Sure. It's still a house, though. It's still owned by the person that owns
> the land, and that is not the government. Perhaps my descriptions should be
> broadened to exclude who lives there.
> 
> 
>> ...
>> Actually this is a really wide field, there are endless singular
>> projects and exceptions, and there are huge cultural differences:...
> 
> Again, I think this is one of those times when we need to focus more on
> usability and common knowledge. I believe I have described the terminology
> that people commonly know and use. It's worked well for me in the 315 cases
> that I've mapped. I don't think it precludes creation of an extended
> tagging scheme if someone really wants to import or research the other
> information.
> 
> --
> Alan Mintz <Alan_Mintz+OSM at Earthlink.net>
> 
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