[Tagging] difference between cycletrack and cycleway

Sander Deryckere sanderd17 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 16:13:47 BST 2011


Since not everyone agrees on the fact that those things are different, I
tried to compare wikipedia to OSM (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregated_cycle_facilities#Terminology)


   - cycle lanes:

higway = *
cycleway = lane

   - cycle tracks

higway = *
cycleway = track
*OR
*highway = cycleway

(depending on data quality)

   - cycleways

higway = cycleway

   - shared paths

highway = path

I believe that there is an inconsistency.

If people have another view or can explain why the current schema is a good
one (for all purposes: rendering, routing, data analysis ...), please share
it. I'm open to discussion.

greets,
Sander

2011/4/18 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>

> You always have "border cases". Like going from a tertiary to a
> unclassified road. but I think the following two ways are different. (we
> don't have streetview in belgium, so you'll have to do it with aerial
> photo's).
>
>
> The path crossing the Westlaan:
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=Roeselare&aq=&sll=51.705295,5.338873&sspn=0.002224,0.006539&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Roeselare,+West-Vlaanderen,+Vlaams+Gewest,+Belgi%C3%AB&ll=50.953547,3.112797&spn=0.001124,0.00327&t=h&z=19
>
>
> The path next to the Sleihagestraat:
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=Roeselare&aq=&sll=51.705295,5.338873&sspn=0.002224,0.006539&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Roeselare,+West-Vlaanderen,+Vlaams+Gewest,+Belgi%C3%AB&ll=50.947006,3.058987&spn=0.001124,0.00327&t=h&z=19
>
> Both ways are separated from a car-road. so both would have the tag
> highway=cycleway.
>
> @Martin: this is right too, you aren't allowed to drive on the
> Sleihagestraat with your bike.
>
> I have a feeling that there might be a difference between countries. In
> Belgium, a separated cycle track is just one where they planted a little
> hedge between the cycle track and the car-road. In the Netherlands, the
> separated cycle tracks seem more developed.
>
> In dutch (at least in flemish) we also have different words. We use
> "fietspad" for a track next to a road but never for a solitaire track, and
> just "pad" or "paadje" for a solitaire track.
>
> Greets,
> Sander
>
>
>
> 2011/4/18 Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com>
>
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > The problem with this tagging method is that the tag "highway=cycleway"
>> is
>> > now used for two completely different features. A cycle track next to a
>> road
>> > is something completely different from a cycleway where there is no
>> other
>> > traffic around.
>>
>> Why is it something completely different? Check
>>
>> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=51.704781,5.336008&panoid=i7_zZrZJ-MbFI7dkleOiSg&cbp=12,191.31,,0,0&msa=0&msid=215551429876055887618.000439115f5c143dd24f7&ll=51.704744,5.335879&spn=0.001562,0.003449&z=18
>> - is this cycleway really something else on two sides of that curve?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> André Engels, andreengels at gmail.com
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