[Tagging] proposed routes, state-tag

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sun Dec 4 00:10:22 GMT 2011

state=alternate is used in Belgium and The Netherlands for the cycle and
hiking node networks with numbered nodes. It means that there are 2 routes
connecting 2 numbered nodes. A 'default'/'preferred'/'normal' one and an
alternative one. (shortcut, more pittoresque). This implies that 2 route
relations are used for this situation.

Maybe state=alternative would have been a better choice. What do you think?
Or should I go to tagging with such a question? (I'm revising all of those
(cycle) routes anyway)

state=connection is used to indicate that there is an additional connection
from (the middle of) a route to either: another (middle of a) route, a
numbered node or maybe a city/village center.


2011/12/2 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>

> 2011/12/2 Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org>:
> > Are you sure you're not getting route and way tagging confused here?
> > What's wrong with the state=proposed tag on relations already in
> > widespread use (by both taggers and data consumers)?
> Maybe I was exaggerating. Generally I don't see a big difference
> between routes and ways, and tags that change the overall meaning of
> other tags significantly should be avoided in favour of more
> fail-proof solutions. If a tag states that there is a route on the
> ground (route=bicycle) then there shouldn't be another tag
> state=proposed (or say abandoned=yes) that if set says: no there isn't
> actually, there might be a route in a while (maybe) or there has been
> a route in the past which isn't there any more.
> On the other hand I can follow your arguments: maybe this is not the
> best way to denote this, but it is already in widespread use, current
> applications are already aware of it, and routes are special interest
> tags so most applications won't evaluate them anyway.
> Currently there is 1344 relations tagged with state and 147124
> relations tagged with type=route (no wonder, as there is no state-tag
> proposed to tag a "normal" route). According to the routes page there
> is 4 core values: proposed / alternate / temporary / connection, but I
> couldn't find a definition what state=alternate might mean. Does
> anyone know a definition for this?
> cheers,
> Martin
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