[Tagging] Differences in cycleways

Robert Elsenaar robert at elsenaar.info
Sun Jan 9 16:36:29 GMT 2011


I think. ...... You hope !!!!!

-Robert-

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Am 09.01.2011 11:37, schrieb Robert Elsenaar:
> Ok, great. If that is the ultimate solution for all cycletracks.
>
> Can you help me with the remaining problems?
> [...]
> Do I have to tell OSM that bicyles are not welcome on the highway=* when 
> there is a highway=cycleway next to it?
If bicycles are legally forbidden on the highway, tag the highway with
bicycle=no (legal access tag).
If not, don't care about it.
Routing engines should prefer cycleways for cyclists over highways, I think.

regards
Peter
>
> -Robert-
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> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:08 AM
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> Subject: [SPAM]: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
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> So, no standalone cycleway will ever be mapped with the cycleway=track 
> tag, and no cycleway that is actually shown on a map will have the tag 
> either? The tag is never to actually be used on a cycleway, only on a 
> motor-vehicle road to indicate that a cycleway exists somewhere nearby, 
> but isn't directly shown on the map?  Does this mean that, should someone 
> else add the cycleway to the map at a later time, the cycleway=track tag 
> should be removed from the motor-vehicle road?
>
> -------Original Email-------
> Subject :Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
>> From  :mailto:slhope at gmail.com
> Date  :Sat Jan 08 21:46:00 America/Chicago 2011
>
>
> On 9 January 2011 07:43, Robert Elsenaar <robert at elsenaar.info> wrote:
>> Nathan,
>> I do not understand you at all.
>> We agree about cycleway=lane: No seperation but defenitely a special 
>> place
>> for bicycles.
>> You stated in your last replay, and correct me if a I'm wrong.
>> highway cycleway should be mapped if there is any kind of seperation, 
>> even
>> when it is only a seperatly a strip of grass.
>>
>> Now my disunderstanding, and please help me out:
>>
>> When do you tag a cyclestrip as cycleway=track?
>
> When it's there, and it could be mapped as a separate track, but you
> haven't done so (yet), then you map the road with cycleway=track. If
> it has been mapped separately, then you wouldn't, as it's not needed.
>
> Stephen
>
>>
>> -Robert-
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Nathan Edgars II
>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 8:11 PM
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>> Subject: [SPAM]: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
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>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Robert Elsenaar <robert at elsenaar.info>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Nathan Edgars II
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:54 PM
>>> To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
>>>
>>> Huh? If there's separation between the cycleway and roadway, it's a
>>> second way. If not, it's a cycle lane rather than a cycle track.
>>> -----
>>> Please define seperation?
>>
>> A continuous physical barrier so that one cannot cross at will between
>> the cycleway and roadway. This may be a Jersey barrier or even a line
>> of raised pavement markers but is normally a strip of grass or hard
>> surface. For example in
>> http://www.truewheelers.org/cases/vassarst/index.htm the separation is
>> curbed areas with plants. (There is however no separation here between
>> the cycleway and footway, so those should probably be combined as a
>> single path with oneway:bicycle=yes.)
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