[Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

LM_1 flukas.robot+osm at gmail.com
Fri Apr 12 20:53:31 UTC 2013

I am a mapper (my consumer side experience was very short so far) and I
like relations.
1) All situations complex and simple can be mapped in the same way - this
makes my mapping easier.
2) Single real object can have all the information on one place only, not
on 50+ osm objects (eg. name of long streets).
3) Higher level, more abstract features can be handled more easily.
4) With appropriate editor (eg. JOSM with Relation Toolbox) it is no more
difficult to learn than drawing a square.
10) Relations just make sense.

Lukáš Matějka (LM_1)

2013/4/12 Martin Vonwald <imagic.osm at gmail.com>

> Hi!
> 2013/4/11 François Lacombe <francois.lacombe at telecom-bretagne.eu>
>> Data quality and consistency check world would definitely prefer to work
>> with relations than with spatial processing.
> The important word here is "prefer". It is obvious that most data
> consumers prefer relations. They are (often) easier to process. But what
> the consumers process is the data that mappers provide. The consumers get
> that data for free. So why should the consumers be allowed to put
> additional burden on the mappers just to make their own life easier?
> Processing _is_ (often) harder without relations. That's a fact no-one
> denies. But we have to make a decision. Do we want data that is very easy
> to process but we get less of it because mappers often fail to provide it.
> Or do we want data that's a little harder to process but we get more of it.
> You can't have both - you have to make a decision.
> Just for the sake of completeness: I will never be a great "plant-mapper"
> so to me it might be completely irrelevant how they should be tagged. But I
> want this little baby (aka OSM) to become a big boy (or girl - see
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/childcare#Post-mortem)
> and in my opinion we will only achieve this if we keep the new mappers
> coming and don't frustrate them early on. I'm fully aware of the importance
> of data consumers. They do a great work and I definitively don't intend to
> make their life miserable. Actually the exact opposite: I want them to get
> as much data as possible. For free. That's why I'm sometimes a pain in the
> ass. And yes, I know that some people would argue about that "sometimes" ;-)
> All the best,
> Martin
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