[Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes

[A.Pirard.Papou]

On 2013-01-22 13:37, doug brown wrote :
> Thanks all for the feedback you have provided on the tags for the 
> shrimp pond dikes.  I hope to be able to implement many of these 
> changes soon, but I have not been successful in using the JOSM 
> Reverter plugin.  The OSM Wiki states:
>
> "After installing the plugin and restarting JOSM, you should find a 
> new menu item History -> Revert changeset."
>
> I have updated to the latest JOSM version (version 5608) and 
> downloaded the plugin and restarted JOSM multiple times, but no 
> History menu item appears.  Subsequent attempts to download the 
> reverter plugin yield a message that all plugins are up to date.
>
> I'm out of ideas on how to proceed.  Does anybody have any advice?
Try renaming your .josm application folder folder to force JOSM building 
a new one.
If you need renaming that folder back to use JOSM, you may try doing as 
I did: call the Reverter to load the erased data in an empty layer, save 
that data in a .osm file, rename your folder back and load the .osm file 
in your usual config to continue.
I have erased that file I was offering you and I can't predict the 
effect of my telling it to ignore the conflicts before saving. I suppose 
the conflicts raise again when trying to update OSM (cancel the update 
and open Windows>Conflict).

Good luck,

André.


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> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:32:47 +0100
> From: A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
> To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
> CC: dougcb68 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes
>
> As I have not received my copy of this, I resend. Sorry for possible 
> duplicates.
>
> On 2013-01-19 16:43, doug brown wrote :
>
>     In the past couple of years I have spent several tens of hours
>     digitizing the shrimp pond dikes in San Blas Municipio, Nayarit,
>     Mexico.  They are a significant feature on the local landscape and
>     of importance because of the degradation they are causing in the
>     mangrove forest ecosystems in which they are located.
>
>     I was much dismayed this past summer when all of these features
>     were deleted from the OSM data base (changeset 11807195), with the
>     comment "Deleting vandalism, those are not roads".
>
> Beside vandalism, the world (at large), is full of people telling what 
> not to do instead of what to do, which is obviously shorter. On the 
> British borderline (ways), you can read the note "admin_level 
> shouldn't be 4". He dared not zap them, fortunately.
>
>     ...
>
>     2) Is there a way to roll back these changes (with modifications
>     you may suggest to the tagging scheme) so that I don't lose all of
>     the work I have invested?  If so, could you point me to some
>     resources that will teach me how this can be accomplished?
>
>     On 2013-01-19 17:03, Pieren wrote :
>
>         You can do this yourself easily with JOSM (and its reverter
>         plugin) when you know the changeset(s) number(s) (which seems
>         to be your case). 
>
> As I have only reverted additions before and not deletions, I gave it 
> a try.
> No panic, those JOSM guys tell you they're reverting the set but I 
> knew they're only downloading the data in preparation for the real 
> update (and if you tell them things like that what to do is not 
> obvious or that  they are frightening, they reply that all user 
> interface "bugs" are closed with a WONTFIX).
> Well, it lasted almost 5 min, but I've seen your data (impressive to 
> lose that, and indecent to zap !!!).
> There are conflicts (differences between the locally recovered and 
> present OSM data for which you must decide which is right) and there 
> is quite a number of ways drawn going off the map limit, possibly a 
> consequence of node deletion.
> Well, just in case you will not use JOSM but you can use a .osm file, 
> I saved that 1MB file and I can send it to you. Because I love shrimps 
> too ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andr�.
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