[Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes

[doug brown]

I'm using Widows 7.

From: phil at trigpoint.me.uk
To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
CC: 
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:52:37 +0000
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes


    
  
  
What OS are you running? A fellow UK mapper was recently unable to revert using windows, however the reversion worked for me running on fedora linux.
 
Phil (trigpoint)
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On 22/01/2013 13:35 A.Pirard.Papou wrote:

    On 2013-01-22 13:37, doug brown wrote :

    
    
      
      
        Thanks all for the feedback you have provided on the tags
          for the shrimp pond dikes.  I hope to be able to implement
          many of these changes soon, but I have not been successful in
          using the JOSM Reverter plugin.  The OSM Wiki states:
        

        
        "After installing the plugin and restarting JOSM, you
          should find a new menu item History -> Revert changeset."
        

        
        I have updated to the latest JOSM version (version 5608)
          and downloaded the plugin and restarted JOSM multiple times,
          but no History menu item appears.  Subsequent attempts to
          download the reverter plugin yield a message that all plugins
          are up to date.
        

        
        I'm out of ideas on how to proceed.  Does anybody have any
          advice?
      
    
    Try renaming your .josm application folder folder to force JOSM
    building a new one.

    If you need renaming that folder back to use JOSM, you may try doing
    as I did: call the Reverter to load the erased data in an empty
    layer, save that data in a .osm file, rename your folder back and
    load the .osm file in your usual config to continue.

    I have erased that file I was offering you and I can't predict the
    effect of my telling it to ignore the conflicts before saving. I
    suppose the conflicts raise again when trying to update OSM (cancel
    the update and open Windows>Conflict).

    

    Good luck,

    

    
      
        
          André.
        
      
    
    

    
      
        
          Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:32:47 +0100

          From: A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com

          To: tagging at openstreetmap.org

          CC: dougcb68 at hotmail.com

          Subject: Re: [Tagging] Dispute concerning shrimp pond dikes

          

          As I have not received my copy
            of this, I resend. Sorry for possible duplicates.

            

            On 2013-01-19 16:43, doug brown wrote :

          
          
            
            
              In the past couple of years I have spent several tens
                of hours digitizing the shrimp pond dikes in San Blas
                Municipio, Nayarit, Mexico.  They are a significant
                feature on the local landscape and of importance because
                of the degradation they are causing in the mangrove
                forest ecosystems in which they are located.
              

              
              I was much dismayed this past summer when all of
                these features were deleted from the OSM data base
                (changeset 11807195), with the comment "Deleting
                vandalism, those are not roads".
            
          
          Beside vandalism, the world (at large), is full of people
          telling what not to do instead of what to do, which is
          obviously shorter. On the British borderline (ways), you can
          read the note "admin_level shouldn't be 4". He dared not zap
          them, fortunately.

          
            ...
              

              
              2) Is there a way to roll back these changes (with
                modifications you may suggest to the tagging scheme) so
                that I don't lose all of the work I have invested?  If
                so, could you point me to some resources that will teach
                me how this can be accomplished?
            
            

            On 2013-01-19 17:03, Pieren wrote :

            

             You can do this yourself easily with JOSM (and
              its reverter plugin) when you know the changeset(s)
              number(s) (which seems to be your case). 
          
          As I have only reverted additions before and not deletions, I
          gave it a try.

          No panic, those JOSM guys tell you they're reverting the set
          but I knew they're only downloading the data in preparation
          for the real update (and if you tell them things like that
          what to do is not obvious or that  they are frightening, they
          reply that all user interface "bugs" are closed with a
          WONTFIX).

          Well, it lasted almost 5 min, but I've seen your data
          (impressive to lose that, and indecent to zap !!!).

          There are conflicts (differences between the locally recovered
          and present OSM data for which you must decide which is right)
          and there is quite a number of ways drawn going off the map
          limit, possibly a consequence of node deletion.

          Well, just in case you will not use JOSM but you can use a
          .osm file, I saved that 1MB file and I can send it to you. 
          Because I love shrimps too ;-)

          

          Cheers, 

          

          
            
              
                Andr�.
              
            
          
          

          

          

          

          

        
      
      

      
      

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