[Tagging] The value of the list (was Observations of the use of the diet: tag)

Pieren pieren3 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 3 12:51:32 UTC 2013

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Serge Wroclawski <emacsen at gmail.com> wrote:

> 1. This list is a small subset of OSMers. It doesn't represent many of
> the supermappers, and it doesn't include editor authors or renderer
> people either.

True. But you forget one important point : most of the contributors
simply don't care about creating, defining, documenting new tags. If
it's not in the editor presets or the huge "map features" wiki page,
they don't tag or just write their "blabla=wow" special tag and they
don't care if it will be recognized later or not.
And today, this list is mostly

> 2. This list's idea of "good tags" differs from the OSM community at large.
> But relations are quite common here.

Not true. Go back in archives or "votes" and you will see plenty of
messages against unnecessary complexity (incl. relations).

> The same goes for colon
> tags, which are heavily proposed (such as in the "diet" proposal) but
> not often used by the public except in very limited circumstances
> (addr).

The semi-colon multiple values is an old "practice" (or
recommandation) in OSM. It seemed to be a good idea and practical for
contributors in the past but today, with our experience, it's not the
case for data consumers neither in editors.

> 3. This list often ignores usage

Again, most of the map features tags are today well defined and
documented. Now we come to a point where discussions are about
non-geographic features like diet or specialized features like power
voltage, type of beers or amount of bridge pillars. Such discussions
are also implying a very small subset of the community.
Anout tags usage. check the list of "designation" values and you will
see that eventhough it's widely used, it can be massively incorretly

> That would be a useful exercise, and I would participate. But right
> now, my view, and my advice to others, is generally to go out and
> map.[1]

But this list is about finding consensus about controversial or new
tags and put the result on the wiki. The "vote" is a good point in
this way that we call feedbacks from a wider audience ("only wiki"
users, local lists). If you find that this list is not reflecting the
real community, then call for more players. List is open and no one
will complain.


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