[Tagging] Childcare Tag

John Sturdy jcg.sturdy at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 20:38:10 UTC 2013

It would probably be good to re-open discussion (and add your voice to
it, particularly as you have an interest in using such a tag); after
that, I think this one could be ready to vote on.


On 7/9/13, alyssa wright <alyssapwright at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I'm beginning to get a better sense of how things operate.
> Appreciate the patience. That said -- how does one move a proposed tag to a
> vote? Like can I call one right now?
> Best,
> Alyssa.
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On 09.07.2013 19:13, alyssa wright wrote:
>>> Yes, people keep saying that. But as a new editor, my inclination is to
>>> use approved tags and not ones that are in the proposal stage.
>> Most new editors (in the "human being" sense) tend to use the tags
>> offered
>> by their editors (in the "software" sense).
>> Which tags are offered by the editors is entirely up to the editor coding
>> teams, and different editors will differ in their presets. There is no
>> automatism that promotes approved tags to editor presets, and there are
>> many non-approved tags in editor presets.
>>  This is
>>> consistent in what I've seen anecdotally with new members. This tag has
>>> yet to go up for a vote. How can it go up for a vote? But then why even
>>> have a voting process if you're saying extensibly saying it doesn't
>>> matter?
>> Personally, I'd say that a tag going through a successful vote process at
>> least means that it's not just something that a lone madperson has come
>> up
>> with without talking to others; it's a somewhat-discussed idea, and
>> therefore more likely to grab the attention of mappers and editor
>> writers,
>> and therefore more likely to become used.
>> I wouldn't say the process is useless, It is suitable for shining a light
>> on a perceived need and possible solutions. The process does not,
>> however,
>> have the weight that some people attribute to it; just because 20 people
>> voted on a new convoluted rule how to code opening times, doesn't mean
>> every editor writer will now eagerly implement a new preset for that -
>> and
>> just because a proposal was shot down, doesn't mean that the tag won't be
>> rendered.
>> Bye
>> Frederik
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