[Tagging] Childcare Tag

fly lowflight66 at googlemail.com
Wed Jul 10 12:18:16 UTC 2013


Am 09.07.2013 20:29, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
> On 09.07.2013 19:13, alyssa wright wrote:
>> Yes, people keep saying that. But as a new editor, my inclination is to
>> use approved tags and not ones that are in the proposal stage.
> 
> Most new editors (in the "human being" sense) tend to use the tags
> offered by their editors (in the "software" sense).
> 
> Which tags are offered by the editors is entirely up to the editor
> coding teams, and different editors will differ in their presets. There
> is no automatism that promotes approved tags to editor presets, and
> there are many non-approved tags in editor presets.

We try to get a comparison working. A promotion would be helpful but
this could be done by anyone and the persons changing the wiki and/or
proposers could fill tickets.

In JOSM you can use extra presets. It is even possible to share your
code with others through JOSM Trac. We hoped to get some extra presets
and later on even patches for core but people seem to rather create a
new preset for there needs than translating/updating/expending existing
ones.

>> This is
>> consistent in what I've seen anecdotally with new members. This tag has
>> yet to go up for a vote. How can it go up for a vote? But then why even
>> have a voting process if you're saying extensibly saying it doesn't
>> matter?
> 
> Personally, I'd say that a tag going through a successful vote process
> at least means that it's not just something that a lone madperson has
> come up with without talking to others; it's a somewhat-discussed idea,
> and therefore more likely to grab the attention of mappers and editor
> writers, and therefore more likely to become used.

Or no one cared about your proposal.

One good thing about a nice proposal is that the documentation is done !
Weather it will stay in proposal name space or be approved and moved
does not matter that much.

> I wouldn't say the process is useless, It is suitable for shining a
> light on a perceived need and possible solutions. The process does not,
> however, have the weight that some people attribute to it; just because
> 20 people voted on a new convoluted rule how to code opening times,
> doesn't mean every editor writer will now eagerly implement a new preset
> for that - and just because a proposal was shot down, doesn't mean that
> the tag won't be rendered.

+1

fly



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