[Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Tue Nov 5 03:45:15 UTC 2013


This all really sounds like a job for relations, similar to enforcement
relations.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Tod Fitch <Tod at fitchdesign.com> wrote:

> Regardless of whether or not a direction tag is considered I think the
> following three items should be met:
>
> 1. Should be consistent for both mapping signs and signals. At least for
> stop signs in the areas I drive, they seem to present the same mapping
> issues (location to mark, directionality of traffic they control, etc.) as
> traffic signals.
>
> 2. Should be easy for non-expert mappers to add and edit. Relations are
> conceptually nice for many things. But the tools to make them easy to add
> and especially to edit seem to be difficult for many users.
>
> 3. Should be easy for the data consumers to parse and use. No so much
> worried about display purposes as for routing in this case.
>
> I personally find the traffic_signal:direction tag to be clunky, but it is
> in the wiki for traffic signals where many/most mappers will find it. And
> traffic signals are a member of the same class as stop and yield signs in
> my mind: Things that control right of way at an intersection.
>
> -Tod
>
> On Mon, November 4, 2013 3:42 pm, fly wrote:
> > Please not again forward/backward on nodes. We have direction for nodes
> > only need to state if you mean the driving direction or the facing
> > direction.
> >
> > cu fly
> >
> >
> > Am 05.11.2013 00:16, schrieb Tod Fitch:
> >> A fifth method might be to use forward and backward tags on the node
> >> where the sign is tagged much like one of the suggested methods for
> >> tagging traffic signals.
> >>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Traffic_signal#Tag_all_incoming_ways
> >>
> >> Seems like one uniform way of tagging traffic control signs and signals
> >> should be possible and desirable.
> >>
> >> Tod
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from my mobile device. Please excuse my brevity.
> >>
> >> "Balázs Barcsik" <balazs.barcsik at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hi There!
> >>
> >>     I would like to introduce give_way and stop alerts into navigation
> >>     tools such as OSMAnd.
> >>     For this approach a good tagging is needed. So when someone driving
> >>     and arrives to an intersection then the app would show give way or
> >>     stop depending on which road he/she is. (or nothing if the road is a
> >>     priority one)
> >>
> >>     Can you help me define this in a proper way?
> >>
> >>     I think there are several options:
> >>
> >>     1. extend highway=give_way (and stop) to able to use on ways
> >>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dgive_way
> >>     2. define a new tag: priority_road=give_way (stop)
> >>         link to existing
> >>     tag https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Apriority_road
> >>     3. define new tag: priority=give_way (stop)
> >>         link to existing
> >>     tag https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:priority
> >>     4. define new type - priority:
> >>         link to my
> >>     proposal:
> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:_relation:priority
> >>
> >>     Thanks, Balazs
> >>
> >>
> >>
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