[Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - bicycle=use_cycleway

Pee Wee piewie32 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 12 19:04:35 UTC 2013


2013/11/12 Matthijs Melissen <info at matthijsmelissen.nl>

> I support the idea in principle. However, would it be possible to
> propose a tag that is backwards compatible with the current scheme,
> and does not break existing renders / routers? For example, something
> like bicycle=no, bicycle:use_cycleway=yes?
>
> -- Matthijs
>

If I understand correctly you're saying that the combination of a
"bicycle=no" & "bicycle:use_cycleway=yes" could mean the same thing as the
proposed tag. I think it could but I'm not realy in favour of this. The
main reason is that I prefer a "bicycle=" tag so there are no contradicting
options possible and things get clear in just 1 tag. What if a road would
be tagged with a "bicycle=yes" & "bicycle:use_cycleway=yes". What
information would this give to a router?

I don't understand what kind of problems routers/renderers whould have.
Could you explain a little. Remember that most roads for which this new tag
is introduced do not have a "bicycle= " tag yet. (with the exeption of NL)

>
> On 12 November 2013 18:16, Pee Wee <piewie32 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Together with user Masimaster I've made a proposal for a new tag to
> improve
> > bicycle routing. I think (and hope) the wiki is clear enough but I’ll
> say a
> > few words about this new tag.
> >
> >
> > The tag is introduced to separate 2 kinds of roads where you are not
> > supposed to ride your bike.
> >
> >
> > The first is a road with a traffic sign (bicycle icon with red edge) that
> > makes clear it is forbidden to ride a bicycle . (common tag: bicycle=no)
> >
> > The second is a road that has a parallel compulsory cycleway but does not
> > have the bicycle forbidden sign.  On this type of road you’re not
> supposed
> > to ride your bike but there are exeptions.
> >
> >
> > Legally  these 2 roads are not the same. For example.. in NL some 3 wheel
> > bicycles with certain measurements are allowed to ride the second type of
> > road.  In other countries there is also a legal difference. For this
> reason
> > we propose this new tag.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > PeeWee32
> >
> >
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