[Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

John F. Eldredge john at jfeldredge.com
Sat Nov 30 14:39:55 UTC 2013


Jonathan <bigfatfrog67 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Why can we not have:
> 
> man_made=surveillance
> surveillance:type=webcam
> surveillance:zone=weather;traffic;scenic.....
> url=http://....
> 
> The overarching category of man_made=surveillance is important because
> 
> no matter what the intention of a webcam it is pushing to the internet
> 
> and therefore there is no control on who sees it and what they use it 
> for, so you can't say it isn't surveillance because that's what it is.
> 
> This is in keeping with current usage and allows current renderers to 
> capture any newly added "webcams" without recoding.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> http://bigfatfrog67.me
> 
> On 29/11/2013 13:24, Georg Feddern wrote:
> > Am 29.11.2013 13:03, schrieb Egil Hjelmeland:
> >> On 29. nov. 2013 10:32, Jonathan wrote:
> >>> I would agree, I think that covers it.
> >>>
> >>> A webcam is surveillance, it's a camera that is watching you
> making 
> >>> it available to anyone.  Some would say that is a greater 
> >>> infringement than an official camera that is regulated.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe the wiki page needs re-wording to reflect that it doesn't 
> >>> matter who is watching just that if they're watching with a camera
> 
> >>> then it's surveillance.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I think we live in different universes. This is the kind of stuff I
> 
> >> am interested in:
> >> http://webcam.svorka.net/bollen/
> >>
> >> http://webcam.sollia.net/image.jpg
> >
> > not living, just thinking:
> > You can surveil the wheather condition, snow condition, forest fire 
> > there. ;-)
> >
> > Well, I think I understand what you mean - I would have prefered a 
> > generic man_made=camera instead of =surveillance.
> > I normally can not decide which view angle, zoom or purpose it has.
> > Only: There is someone watching - but what and why?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Georg
> >
> >
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Internet-connected cameras aren't necessarily publicly-viewable.  Access to the camera may require a password, or the video stream may be sent, encrypted, to some other point.

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John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
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