[Tagging] owner vs operator

François Lacombe francois.lacombe at telecom-bretagne.eu
Tue Sep 3 14:44:45 UTC 2013


Many thanks for your answers.

+1 with Martin Koppenhoefer, let's update the wiki according to that.

@Pieren : As said on french list, "belongs to" on the operator tag's page
may refer to the obligation the operator have regarding the infrastructure
without implying propery (as Martin said).
We can refine these terms on the page to remove any confusion.

*François Lacombe*

francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu

2013/9/3 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>

> 2013/9/3 Pieren <pieren3 at gmail.com>
>> but :
>> "Useful to describe that a certain map object "belongs" to a company
>> or corporation in any way."
>> This definition suggests that "operator" is also the owner...
> maybe we should change this into "some way", so it doesn't (IMHO) imply
> property?
> Looking at usage of the tags for owner I see
> * owner (used 58k times, but seems to come from import(s), has often
> capitalized values, the leading is UNKNOWN (19%), and other formalized
> values like PUBLIC, CITY, Dcr␣-␣Division␣Of␣State␣Parks␣And␣Recreation<http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/owner=Dcr%20-%20Division%20Of%20State%20Parks%20And%20Recreation>,
> Department␣Of␣Fish␣And␣Game<http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/owner=Department%20Of%20Fish%20And%20Game>,
> PRIVATE are following. There is also a remarkable amount of "X" (place 8).).
> * ownership (used 42k times, the values meet our general formal
> requirements (no CAPs, etc.), the values are generalized and documented
> (municipal, state, private, national, land_trust, private_nonprofit,
> county), there is wiki docu:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ownership
> * proprietor (used only 12 times, listing a name)
> * belongto (used only 2 times)
> my conclusion would be to keep "ownership" as a tag to denote the kind of
> owner (private, public, ...) and to put into "owner" the actual name of the
> owner (if this is suitable for privacy reasons, e.g. in the case of a
> company, association or a public entity but not in the case of a person).
> So owner instead of "CITY" would be e.g. "Gotham City". Also we could ask
> the importer of the "crap" into the tag owner to clean up the mess.
> cheers,
> Martin
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