[Tagging] How to overcome lack of consensus

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Thu Sep 19 12:37:24 UTC 2013


2013/9/19 Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com>

> However, it's possible we could start to have a fairly low-key move
> towards ontology by simply using mediawiki categories. For example if
> you add [[Category:placestogetameal]] to the wiki pages for fast_food,
> restaurant, cafe, then it's rather likely that data consumers can use
> some of the pre-existing mediawiki tools (as used in
> http://dbpedia.org/ for example) to extract structured data that
> expresses tags' relations.
>


yes, but that is also not easy or feasible without taking into account
local specialties. In Germany, many petrol stations offer something to eat
(they have a sort of small bakery warming up baked stuff, sell warm
sausages etc.), in Italy this is much more rare (you can find it sometimes
outside the bigger cities - sometimes). Is a pub a place where you can get
something to eat? depends. Some kiosks also offer something to eat, etc.
Also Youth Clubs sometimes offer something to eat. Some don't.

Or places to get tobacco: in France you can get them in bars and pubs
(sometimes, but not so rare), in Germany you can get them in supermarkets
and petrol stations, in Italy you will get them only in special shops with
the appropriate sign, and in other countries it might be even more
different.

Or places to buy alcohol.

OK, tobacco and alcohol might be special cases because they are kinds of
drugs and there are quite different regulations all over the world, even
inside the EU in different countries. Maybe it is be feasible for many
topics but not all to make this kind of "simply ontology". You could at
least find places where you will definitely find something to eat, even if
you won't cover all places where you might get something to eat. For
practical reasons it is also very important WHEN you can get a certain
service (ever looked for a place to eat in Southern Italy between 14 and
16:30?)

cheers,
Martin
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