[Tagging] problem with bicycle=designated

[fly]

Am 18.08.2014 19:00, schrieb Richard Fairhurst:
> Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>> bicycle=designated is widely used but it not well defined.
> 
> I didn't understand bicycle=designated until I visited Germany for the first
> time earlier this year. Now I realise why it's used... though I still
> strongly disagree with it.
> 
> bicycle=designated exists so that (German) cycleways with the standard sign
> (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Zeichen_237.svg/120px-Zeichen_237.svg.png)
> can be tagged:
>     highway=path
>     bicycle=designated
> 
> This is distinct from "footpath but bikes are permitted", which is indicated
> in Germany by a sign like
> http://www.geo.sunysb.edu/bicycle-muenster/bicycle-free.gif, and which would
> be tagged:
>     highway=path
>     foot=designated
>     bicycle=yes
> 
> Of course, this is yet more nonsense that only exists because of the
> accursed 'highway=path' tag.
> 
> The first scenario can simply be tagged 'highway=cycleway' and the second
> one 'highway=footway, bicycle=yes'. More concise, more clear. But that's
> 'highway=path' for you.

No, highway is not part of the problem except of shared ways (segregated
or not).

The problem is the access definition which excludes other modes from
usage and has even legal impact on using parallel road next to it.

Cheers fly