[Tagging] Religious landuse

[Tom Pfeifer]

Eugene, I am not ignoring anything, I am arguing and listening.
My "90%" were labelled as a guess in a discussion ("quite certainly"),
the "1/3 of them have building tags" comes from taginfo.

You give examples from 6 places where particular mappers use this
style, this is also not a statistic. I have seen this style as well,
and it only reinforces the need to find a solution that suits the
different situations.

If you have knowledge how the act of worshipping in a Buddhist temple
differs from a Christian church or Jewish synagogue, in particular in
being focussed on a particular building vs. practised in a more spatial
manner on the religious campus, that contribution would be welcome.

So far we have identified the following use cases / situations:

1
Building where worshipping ceremonies focus, surrounded by land which has a relation
to the religion, and holds structures that are not used for the act of worshipping.
The building often has architectural significance and stands out as a landmark.

2
Places of worshipping that are not focused on a particular building, the
ceremony is performed in a spacial manner, potentially in open space.

3
Land which has a relation to the religion, holding e.g. administrative office
buildings, seminar rooms, etc., but no particular building for worshipping
ceremonies.

4
Buildings that were erected for worshipping, thus still have the
architectural significance and landmark character, but are now used for
secular purposes, such as concert theatres or climbing halls. Some could be
reactivated for the religious purpose by bringing the altar back.

I still find a landuse tag very suitable for case 1 and 3, where calling
the land *=place_of_worship would be a misnomer for the lack of ceremony.

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
>
>     Thus the comparison with [amenity=school], that can be easily expanded to the
>     whole campus, fails for [amenity=place_of_worship].
>
>     To conclude, [amenity=place_of_worship] should not be expanded to the
>     full campus, and [landuse=religious] is a suitable, multicultural
>     tag for this land, comparable to [landuse=retail] or [landuse=commercial]
>
>     [...]
>
>     Thus "amenity=place_of_worship" is perfectly tailored to this particular
>     building and its meaning should not be expanded to something it was not
>     defined for initially. Keep in mind it is already used 611000 times, only
>     1/3 of them has a building tag, but quite certainly 90% of them are buildings.
>

Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, on 2014-08-26 23:34:
> This completely ignores the current practice all over the world (especially in Asia) where the landuse is already tagged with amenity=place_of_worship. Some examples:
>
> Buddhist temples in Tokyo, Japan: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gi
> Catholic churches in Manila, Philippines: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gj
> Buddhist, Hindu, Methodist, and Muslim places of worship in Singapore: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gk
> Buddhist temples in Beijing, China: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gl
> Hindu temples and Christian churches in Bangalore, India: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gm
> Buddhist temples in Bangkok, Thailand: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/4gn
>
> I would like to see how you came up with the "90% of them are buildings" statistic.